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Having different inputs/buttons set to footstool.
Bashdemears
Jiggs2stronk
puff squirtle is very hard for puff. Like impossible almost. Not unwinnable but i cri evry tim
Amen. ;~;
Bashdemears
Jiggs2stronk
Bent 00
Longtime Limit Breaker
It pains me to confiirm that using New Footstool Triggers online does indeed cause desynches.
I suspect it's because the New FS Triggers are hard-coded to LOCAL controllers, but not to the controls of online opponents. It appears that you can use New Trigger Footstools just fine on your end, but they are not registering on your opponent's end. If your opponent uses a New Trigger Footstool, it will look like it worked on his side, but on your side the game translates the button press into its usual function.
@Glitch: Can you think of a way to fix this problem? If it can't work online, can we add codes that disable New Footstool Triggers in Online play, but allow them to be used offline?
Bent 00
Longtime Limit Breaker
Sounds simple enough. Know any coders that might help?
If I can magically figure out where in game code it is that tells the game you're online then it's possible and easy.
PowerUp
Well-Known Member
Nope! Doesn't work that way. If you talk shit, you get called out.
Kien...I don't think I even have to make the case that you're an average player here at best. By all means though, let's record a few sets just to set the record straight. By the way, beating me in the matchups I am contending would prove that you that you actually know what you are talking about, and are not a complete keyboard warrior.
Speaking of which!
Oh this oughtta be good.
Are we talking about the same game, or are you just so lousy at what you do that I can't tell if you're being serious or not here. Do I have to bring up ROB, FALCO, ZELDA, AND FRIENDS yet again, who are all without an exploitable weakness, but you, PUTZ, are buffing your main instead of fixing these guys. Yes, that makes you self-serving. This is why I say you need to prove yourself in-game. You don't know what makes a "weakness" exploitable, or how things like movement options and range affect matchups. You think LINK needs better boxing. So, if you get rid of Link's supposed weakness (his boxing wasn't bad to begin with), what is his "carefully designed" weakness? Do I really have to make the case that you are totally clueless to anyone else here?
Maybe you should watch the Darx vs Glyph from the tournament. You know, the one where you got sent to the losers bracket in the second round, before eventually getting knocked out by Glyph (lol). Dark pretty much dominates his ROB for 2/3 matches, only losing due to a few very bad plays. It's really impressive. His smart variety of combos and strong finishers says more than any of your ridiculous text walls.
ROB isn't "unfightable" (and Lucario is now far from it). You can get your shots in with any character; he'll just pull ahead with a well place nair or laser gimp sooner or later. The reason ROB is unbalanced is the same reason Zelda is unbalanced, which you have demonstrated time and time again that you don't understand - CONTROL. ROB and Zelda completely control the pace of the match. If they want to camp, they will camp successfully. If they want to approach, they will approach with a safe attack. It's not just a matter of being hard to punish, they are also hard to approach, hard to gimp, hard to whatever. Where is the weakness? You tried to balance ROB by getting rid of his second gyro!
So here's the deal, bronie.
1) I'm taking you up on your "dream build" offer, and I'm going to show you how someone who actually knows a damn thing about game development does balance so that you can learn. I'm busy right now, but keep an eye out for a thread in about two weeks.
2) I'm challenging you to a super set. This is your chance to back your words up and prove that you actually understand how the cast works. Rules:
- 4 stock
- All neutral and CP stages are available
- Each set in the super set is best of 5
- You may not change characters mid-set
- There will be 1 set for each character slot. You may not play the same character twice in the super set.
Baby_Sneak
Well-Known Member
One of my problems recently with this mod is it feels dry for a "broken beyound belief" smash game. There seems to be that design (creating incredible char designs with multiple options (Zard, D3, Zelda, Pichu, GnW, Ganon, and some other chars all lack the ability to mix up their playstyle and use a whole bunch of options), making each move go with the design really well, hitboxes being in the right places, is too far down the priority list.
That's why I had to call you out.
Uh... I wasn't allowed to balance ROB as I wanted. I'm still fighting for his balancing. Falco hsn't proven to be as problematic as you say. I can shut down who is supposedly the best Falco here with multiple characters that he naturally counters. (Unless he's gotten better) And you don't know Link's weakness, you evidently didn't main him in Vbrawl. First and foremost, reflector characters obliterate him. He's easy to gimp as his only viable recovery option is spin attack and if he gets hit out of that he has to do another one, but he gains no horizontal distance. So that's a stock. Then there comes Link being midheavy weight and DI dependent on survival. He gets juggled almost as bad as the heavies without perfect DI, he falls fast so characters who meteor have an advantage right there. His movespeed is slow so screw spacing yourself without sending them away and he can't aim his projectiles outside of rang. People with good approach and fast melees dominate him. A 4 frame jab (3.Q Link) is still slower than half the cast which in minus consists of 1-3 framers. Anyway anyway anyway.
Well Kirby has a full arsenal of low risk high reward high damage true combos and fast disjointed high damage kill moves which means you aren't likely to clang with him and you're NEVER going to outprioritize him. There are some characters who don't have that large a variety of combos to attempt, and you'd do well to realize that. Over half of his moveset either cancels safely or ends before frame 25 which is barely giving the hitbox time to terminate.
Lucario is someone I balanced by the way... and Zelda evidently gives you the blues. I learned how to fight her mid match, and yes it was difficult, but I never fight Zeldas. The problem with ROB is that he has the ability to pull ahead in any matchup depending on how he plays. He can even shut down Falco if he doesn't use any projectiles. With a bunch of high damage aerials and fair dealing 10% and chaining, he can actually line up guaranteed laser kills even on him. If not, while falling he can laser and the reflect won't even aim back at him.
So, I have to prove the untrue, in that beating someone proves game balance. YES. Are we using 3.Q because I deleted 3.5 after losing the tourney? I didn't say I understand how the cast works. I state to understand the people who I code. Which is somehow hard for you to understand.