Maybe I'm mistaken but I don't think anyone is hating on owo, rather they're just finally recognizing how good he's been this whole time.
By "hating on", I mean "Scheming to beat him." Let's be real, if someone else [besides your ROB or Kien's Link], I dunno, Bent or NEWB or The Concept, had been in GF right now, would people be discussing all the ways to deal with their main? I honestly don't think so.
The one game I did win against owo I went Ganon actually, which is a testament to how that matchup leans. I'm not even a particularly good Ganon, but he can just shrug off so much of what falco does and pretty much anything you land is crazy bad news for the ol bird.
For what it's worth, I think that MU is even or ever so slightly favors Falco, but MU inexperience on both sides will skew it heavily toward Ganondorf. Falco has to play significantly more carefully than Ganondorf does, but Falco has all the tools to keep Ganondorf at bay and rack percentage rather safely. However, Falco's zero-death risk is low (almost non-existent near the center of the stage), while Ganondorf can often be a hit away from getting a zero-death.
I personally think Captain Falcon does better against Falco than does Ganondorf, because Raptor Boost and Falcon Kick are bonkers good (two FKs with proper follow-ups, and if needed a stray hit, should be death every time). Falco CAN combo both of them, but it's not as automatic as their combos on him. If the Falco's combo game is solid, things don't look that fun for either of them, but it's by no means unwinnable.
Keep in mind this also depends on the Falco being rather competent at dairing them - in my opinion Falco doing his job will land at least one dair offstage a game, unless he's racking percent so well he just flat-out KOs them. I say this because Falcon and 'Dorf have two of the most linear recoveries in the game, and unlike Fox/Wolf neither of them is a teleport (Falco's doesn't have to be that linear because 3 mid-air jumps).
How about charizard? Sneak just flies over all Link's projectiles in our second match, and fair would beat the reflector.
Fair maybe beats reflector... but Falco should really look for fair and shield it in this MU, then OoS whatever. If 'zard is flying over lasers, Falco' lasers are doing their job. Stealth Rock is bad/not usually a factor in this MU (Falco just reflects them usually, and they're then his or clank out with the non-reflected ones), and blast burn can also be reflected fairly easily. 'Zard CAN super-armor through dair, so dair edgeguards won't happen after fsmash or dsmash often, but Falco can combo and zone him like others... I'd like to play you at some point and see how this shakes out.
You eat the two damage and keep walking forward. Or roll, whatever floats your boat. The idea there is the laser spam pales in comparison to ganon landing a single hit, so even though falco is for sure a challenge to get in on it is VERY rewarding when you do.
Also jumping and stuff if you want to get fancy.
Or hold your analog stick diagonally up and powershield each laser as they come - you'll slowly advance while blocking them all. If Wiz Kick is still invincible and you're full stage away you can also do that to cut the distance in half first in exchange for 3% from the laser hitting you in endlag [a very good trade in my opinion]. Falco COULD read this option, but as long as you don't do it every time it's a non-issue.
Yep, but you can trade a lot of moves with that with some careful timing. I should also note that I took him to Fountain of Dreams to prevent that exact problem lol
That's what Wiz Kick is for - very good move for trading/beating it out. Smart Falcos will soften you up with lasers though, and if they can tell you're fishing for it, well, he can do other stuff too. I think Wiz Kick is guaranteed for beating it out, assuming you time it and you are heading toward each other and in range.
Other moves generally have odd properties with Phantasm - once saw dash attack clank with Phantasm like 4 times in a row, then hit him, so Dash attack DOES work, but not always. The same is probably true of Flame Choke, but I don't know.
For the record, I don't think most of this will really hurt owo [most of it is vague-ish anyway], and I'm helping people not jump on the nerf train, which is why I'm doing this. And I'm sure owo already knows all of this anyway, given his proficiency at Falco Brawl stuff.
