Brawl Minus 4.0b is here!

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  1. Thor

    Thor Well-Known Member

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    BUT NOT FALCON'S KNEE

    Comboing into usmash actually wouldn't bother me... really strong? YES. Safe on shield? NOPE [or it shouldn't be]. The point is that counter spam is currently viewed as too safe, and if you made it only cancellable with a smash attack, it would do a wonderful job of making counter more risky [and also more rewarding, where you want to convert into another move instead of just pressing counter again].
     
  2. Bent 00

    Bent 00 Longtime Limit Breaker

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    The occasional "Yes" (on Knee) or "Show me ya moves" (on Falcon Dive) is not nearly as annoying as "Y-Y-You're too slow" or "C-C-Come on, st-C-C-C-Come on, step it up".

    Spam is bad, and encouraging it is bad. It's not funny.

    Maybe it's just the stuttering that bothers me.
     
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  3. Mariosonicman1

    Mariosonicman1 Active Member

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    well also think of it like a play stratagy for sonic. if sonic annoys his enemies, then hes gonna get them agitaited that they will mess up more or play more aggressively. making them play into sonics hand.
    meaning more annoyences = more open hits.
    besides. if you had fun fighting agenst a sonic. 1. then he would start to be way to predictable to fight. 2. somethings not right.
     
  4. Bent 00

    Bent 00 Longtime Limit Breaker

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    Since when is being annoying considered a desirable design trait, and "fun to fight against" an undesirable one? I don't get it. :(

    While we're talking about Sonic:
    His D-Air still kills too early at ledge-height or below. It stuns its target for too long -- we should be able to jump out of said stun sooner.
     
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  5. Pin Clock

    Pin Clock Project Leader Minus Backroom

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    Boost's cooldown and Sonic's weight decrease was all to make him more fun to fight against. I don't think anyone else here finds Sonic's voice clip usage annoying in a way that makes him unenjoyable.
     
  6. Lucis Perficio

    Lucis Perficio Radiant Hero of Blue Flames

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    Sounds like someone has trouble against Sonic? lol
     
  7. Bent 00

    Bent 00 Longtime Limit Breaker

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    True, and those changes are appreciated.

    I guess I'm the only one that hates st-st-stuttering v-v-voice c-c-clips.

    I don't get to fight many good Sonic players, so I wouldn't know.

    Sounds like he's still universally thought of as "annoying to play against" in Minus, though... and that seems like a bad thing.

    At any rate, Sonic's D-Air killing so early is a much bigger problem. Let's talk about that.
     
  8. Cheetaboy

    Cheetaboy New Member

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    Would anyone like to play my F-C is 2750-0758-1711
     
  9. Cheetaboy

    Cheetaboy New Member

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    I also get an error when i try and create a room, my game freezes, is this supposed to happen :(
     
  10. Lucis Perficio

    Lucis Perficio Radiant Hero of Blue Flames

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    I know Sonic can be annoying. I have a friend that plays him pretty well, but ultimately what it comes down to is reads considering i use slower characters (Ike, Bowser, Ganondorf). Generally the only way I end up losing is by some trickery like dair->footstool at low percents for example. But a well-developed mind game can have him zipping in places he wouldn't want to zip
     
  11. Pin Clock

    Pin Clock Project Leader Minus Backroom

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    He's not thought of universally as "Annoying to play against", he's just thought of as "annoying", and in this sense, "annoying" is a good thing that gives him more personality.

    We'll look into dAir more for full release.
     
  12. Cheetaboy

    Cheetaboy New Member

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    has any1 by chance already played online with someone, does it mess up for any1 else?
     
  13. Mawootad

    Mawootad Minus Backroom

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    The gravity and fallspeed changes are a global, assembly level change to all characters attributes. Lucario is floaty in 4.0b because he's floaty in 3.Q, not because we gave him special attribute tweaks to keep him as a slow faller.

    Edit:
    Can you explain in more detail?
     
  14. Bent 00

    Bent 00 Longtime Limit Breaker

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    Thanks for the clarification. I guess its floatiness is just more noticeable to me, now that everyone falls a little faster. Some characters are affected by this more than others -- I could compare it to a tax increase, where heavies are poor and lightweights are rich. The heavies needed every bit of airtime they had in 3.Q, and now they have 10% less of it... while the floaters aren't bothered by the reduction at all; they still have plenty left.

    Is the new 1.1x gravity most likely here to stay, or is it just experimental?

    Does anyone think any of the cast feel too heavy now?
     
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  15. Cheetaboy

    Cheetaboy New Member

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    do you think you could maybe try to play online with me, im not sure if it works for me, i tried to create a room for friends and it just froze
     
  16. Cheetaboy

    Cheetaboy New Member

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    I belive the glitch happened with 3 roys on screen when i tried, i restarted, and it works, do u still want to play though :p (PS do u know where i can find people to play?)
     
  17. Bent 00

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  18. Swoosh_

    Swoosh_ New Member

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    i downloaded brawl minus and im almost 100% sure that i did it right but its still not working can anybody show me a picture of what the sd card should look like would really help
     
  19. Mawootad

    Mawootad Minus Backroom

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    If you have three Roys on screen the issue is deeper than online play. I'd guess there's something wrong with your hook type, but it's hard to say; the hotfix we're releasing pretty soon will change how Roy and Pichu load, so if your hooktype is already AXNextFrame try seeing if the hotfix solves things.
     
  20. Pin Clock

    Pin Clock Project Leader Minus Backroom

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    IF YOU HAVE DOWNLOADED 4.0b BEFORE SEPTEMBER 6TH
    We have released a hotpatch that fixes a few minor bugs (BrawlEX 2.0 and the Knuckles Texture is added, the Battlefield Freeze/Muted glitch). In addition to this, we also added an Unlock All Stages Code. Please download this and replace the appropriate files with these fixed ones!

    Download the hot patch here
     
  21. Mawootad

    Mawootad Minus Backroom

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    The root of the SD card should contain the folders Apps, Codes, and Private. Make sure you're extracting the contents of the 4.0b folder onto your SD card, not the folder itself.
     
  22. Swoosh_

    Swoosh_ New Member

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    btw im also doing this on no homebrew
     
  23. Mariosonicman1

    Mariosonicman1 Active Member

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    will the hotfix just replace the files it needs to? or will i have to do something complex again?
     
  24. Swoosh_

    Swoosh_ New Member

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    can somebody just send me a picture of what the sd card should look like?
     
  25. Pin Clock

    Pin Clock Project Leader Minus Backroom

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    just replace the files it needs to!
     

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