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You said everything Bent already covered...and I liked his post to signify that I agreed with him after his explanation. I personally didn't think it to be much of a deal, but I'm trying to build the scene and many requested that I bring it up on the forums for the devs to see. So I did.

Idk if you mean to man, but you come across as very condescending. I'm not some scrub and neither was the Falcon getting beaten by the Roy. He's one of the state's best players, got 9th at KiT a couple months back. If he could've DI'd it, he would have.

I agree with that. And I'll say it because I'm rational. Lol

Hmmmmm...interesting...I'll definitely take all of this into account when playing against a a JP and discussing the point with other players. When you explain it that way, I suppose it does add an interesting dynamic to the Jigg's MU like other unique character aspects. This is more...

That's unfortunate. Was it an issue in vBrawl? I'll certainly pass on your advice to the Olimar players.

It's problem because its an option that allows you to hit and get kills beneath stage while above it and completely safe from harm. That may not seem like much to a casual player, but that's a big deal in competitive play. Which is why everyone who played last night disagreed with its presence...

Breaking Limits is fun...within reason. Minus is super fun with LOADS of potential. Let's make it COMPLETELY viable for competitive play! :)

I appreciate the MU help, I'll be sure to pass it on to other players. I know the MU though, just addressing a concern brought up by a large player base. I held a bracket of 30 folks at a local last night, and it was a unanimous opinion that its cheesy and silly for a character to have the...

Roy's side B may need some adjusting. I watched a set in bracket last night in which a Roy just did the first 2 hits of side b over, and over, and over to a Captain Falcon and won...there was no skill...it was no fun to watch...Roy just took advantage of Captain Falcon's fast falling and spammed...

I get Minus is meant to be fun, and it is. You all have got a good game here and I've got high hopes for 4.0f...so can we lose the outright stupid JP shield shenanigans? Lol...Double the shield of other characters and she explodes.. Why? Just why, lol... Double the shield I can see as a...

Is it known that Olimar's Pikmin Chain sometimes doesn't grab ledge? Had a Pikmin player in bracket last night who died several times because his chain didn't grab ledge when it was w/i range. He prolly lost 5 stocks this way in his run to Losers Finals in a 30 man bracket. Definitely something...

Hey guys, had a suggestion for balance. Zelda is great, but her dair's ability to travel through the the stage and hit opponents seems a bit much. Could it adjusted to not travel through stages? She doesn't get to hit folks like this often because many stages dont let players pass through their...

K. I'm completely aware of that... To address everything else... Meteor throws can result in early kills. Everything that has been said here, I was already aware of; the positioning happens rarely, their meteor cancelable, etc... Just brought it to your attention because I felt it was a poor...

No. Losing the neutral once does amount to "being outplayed."

I'm not really suggesting a nerf. I'm suggesting that an aspect of the game, throws that meteor, be removed. It could be handled by making characters grab ledge after the throw, the exact thing that happens when Ganon flame chokes on ledge.

Whether they're DI'able or not, throws that grant the same things as attacks that usually require reads is still ridiculous. The characters in Minus are strong enough already w/o the absurd throws. I'm not sure about Tink and Lucario's throws, but even killing at 60% is STUPID for a throw. As...

What they need to do is add Ridley to the game and make him the mascot. That big purple people eater would exemplify the slogan "Breaking Limits!" better than any other character! :D ...and, as mentioned, he's PURPLE! I mean COME ON, isn't this a no brainer?!?!?!? Lol

...then we need a new mascot. I love me some Dorf...but not so big on the heavy association of the game with a Satanic reference...ah well.

Though the scenario may be rare, its presence can still be the determining factor in a set. And it's not at all hard to land a dashing pivot grab to get one of these kills. Furthermore, IIRC, Fox can do the same thing if Dthrows a character close enough to ledge; and I'm sure there are others...

How many of meteoring Bthrows exist in Minus? I'm sure there are multiple ones. Captain Falcon is the only character I use regularly that has one, and it seems like a completely broken thing to have; even by Minus's standards. If the Captain grabs you on ledge with his back to it, he can kill...