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I know I've said that Lucario's Double Team and Pit's Angel Ring are too good before. Falco's Slow Lasers should just be cut out, IMO. Haven't played against good MK or ZSS players enough to comment on them. EDIT: I'm surprised Sonic's D-Air "Spike" hasn't been mentioned in here until now...

Might as well... If I can enter only one: Martinet (Green & White Luigi) If I can enter two, add: Hayter (Red & Black Snake) Named after their voice actors. :) Note: Names edited into full last names instead of abbreviations.

*Falcon Shrug* I went ahead and upped it to three Jigglypuffs, and beat the challenge without much trouble, losing only one stock. Just gimme the title of Punch Master already. :ganon:

*tries challenge out of boredom* Well, that was easy. I only attacked with Warlock Punch -- used other Specials only to recover -- and I won in less than five tries. Now the BR's Team Ganondorf Challenge... That was pretty tough. I could only beat that as 'Dorf, Falcon, and Zelda.

It was a nice try, AGentleStar. Unfortunately, anyone who doesn't like the costumes will just have to replace them manually. That was the main reason I made the other topic: To make that process as easy as possible, for everyone. Copy & Paste a few things, done. I plan to go back and finish...

Is there a way we could try out and compare... A.) 4.0b Standard Ledge Invincibility Time + Lagless Edges VS B.) 4.0f Decreased Ledge Invincibility Time + 4.0b Edge Lag Time VS C.) 4.0f Decreased Ledge Invincibility Time + Lagless Edges Testing "A" would be as simple as adding in the Lagless...

Try this one, I believe it's the latest version by ThePoisonMirage.

Cool, just mentioned it in case it was useful. I'm not a coder, so I didn't know if it would be or not... >_> Never mind, then! Carry on...

I'm glad to see you've already got always-Metal Mario included! I've wanted to see him in Minus for a long time now, as a "challenge" type character that isn't necessarily balanced with the normal cast -- just like Giga Bowser and Wario Man.

I've played Minus Snake many hours, but I didn't know about that feature. Thanks for sharing it!

You want to know something else that's obnoxious? The Cancel on Luigi's Dash Attack. Way too spammable and safe. Looks weird in action, too.

Labbed ICs an hour or so. Haven't found anything obviously OP yet... but being able to make Blizzard and D-Smash slide around, and Blizzard being Grab-Cancellable? Those things seem like they would be too easy to spam, making ICs annoying to play against. I'm not a fan of giving ground moves...

I think ICs are potentially OP, but no one here plays them much except BC, so no one knows how good they really are. Sliding Blizzard is particularly annoying to deal with. As for Olimar, he isn't so much OP as he is shallow, like Dedede and his army. They both need to be made less...

Turk Injaydii: 'Dorf's throws aren't that bad. I wouldn't mind one or two of them being made more of positioning tools instead of K.O. tools, though. Variety is nice. I think you should direct your balancing efforts towards the truly OP, Upper-Tier characters, rather than pick on poor, Mid-Tier...

You can also use a Classic Controller to move the Wii Menu pointer around, even with no sensor bar attached.

That's a start. Which guide(s) did you follow, if any?

Here's a picture: And here's a link to the video.