You misquoting me to make it look like I'm saying things I'm not is ridiculous. Kirby WOULD need love in the KO department IF he didn't have uthrow, because then he'd have fsmash (a little slow), dsmash (faster, but unreliably short-ranged), usmash (still fairly slow), and hammer, which is super slow (But can be set up if your opponent can't SDI fair). Kirbycides don't count [like, no], and his gimp game is fine but it's not better than Falco's or Puff's in my opinion. Uthrow gives him the last tool to make fsmash and usmash better KO moves, since otherwise shield would be perfectly safe vs Kirby [and shieldgrab would make him cry]. P.S: If Kirby was, say, Mario's weight, or Falcon's, or something, his KO power sans uthrow is fine, because he can take a beating. But Kirby dies SUPER fast, so he needs reliable KO stuff, since he can't waste time building percent, since trades just wreck him. Also Peach fair should probably be slightly buffed - not a lot, but maybe like 3 or 4 points of KBG would help her out.