Melee physics in real life.

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  1. Thor

    Thor Well-Known Member

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    Wiimote alone is disadvantageous to you, actually - get a GC controller (new ones will be like 30 bucks) or use a Wiimote+Nunchuk.

    It's disadvantageous because on a GC and maybe on Wiimote+Nunchuk [I don't know] but not on Wiimote alone, you can do a bair while moving forward only. As an example, Peach can float backwards and hit the c-stick forward to fair while continuing to float backwards - the same concept could work with Falco's bair to never stop or slow down moving in a direction, but that's not possible on a Wiimote alone.

    Also, although learning a GC might not be tons of fun, it works with 3 of the 4 unmodded games and Brawl-. And I think it might ultimately make you an even better player (having a c-stick is SO good...)
     
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    If you're running Brawl Minus 3.5, Version 1 of the New Footstool Triggers code is already in your build; it won't make you desync.

    Go into Options > Controls, and customize your tag's Wii Remote + Nunchuk controls so that DPad Down is Up Taunt.

    Now you can attempt footstools without wasting jumps if you miss. :)
     
  3. Darxmarx

    Darxmarx The Learning Star Warrior

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    I understand I'm taking a big risk, and a c-stick would be nice, but I'm doing ok without a GC controller or even a nunchuk. Also, I can understand the fair while moving backwards in the air can be helpful, but my mains can't really use that effectively. *cough* Kirby *cough*

    Now, if I played those characters you mentioned, then I'd already be using a GC controller. But I don't.
    I also have some twisted joy of being the only person who uses a Wiimote alone.
     
  4. Bashdemears

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    I'm disappointed that you think I use wiimote
     
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    Oops, I got you mixed up with The Concept.

    Concept, are you making use of that New Footstool Trigger on Wii Remote + Nunchuk?
     
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    Actually, I was thinking more of using bair while moving forward through the air... it's a trick Falco and Kirby can do because of their bair hitboxes that lets it function as a short-ranged but [often] significantly better fair. But it's your call either way I suppose.
     
  7. The Concept

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    I only footstool with Mario. So I haven't used the new triggers ...consciously
     
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    I'm really impressed with how well you handle solo wiimote (best I've ever seen really), but still would encourage you to attempt to practice with a controller that has a c-stick & shoulder buttons. I play with the classic controller and GC controller & there's not to much skill lost between transitions, but I prefer the compactness of the CC.
     
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    Darxmarx The Learning Star Warrior

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    Oh, that's what you meant? Sorry I misunderstood.

    Thank you. Know that I've gotten all these replies, I might give a GC controller a try. But that's something for the future.
    ...Namely, when the Wii U GC controller adapter comes out. I only have my Wii U with me right now... :(
     
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    Hmm..indeed. Didn't think about that.
     
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    I hope so too. I want to use a GC controller on both Brawl and Virtual Console.
     
  13. Thor

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    I don't know about Wii-U, but I know that thanks to buying it through the Wii shop, I've played SSB64 with a GC controller on my Wii.

    Whoa I just realized that's like 3 different generations of gaming coming together to play one game.

    And it could happen again if I use GC to play Brawl on Wii-U.
     
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  14. The Concept

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    Does anyone think that Nintendo will bring GC virtual console?
    We have adapters now...so...I say maybe. I do know that the file sizes for GC are nowhere near PS2 or Wii.
     
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    I think it's a definite possibility. They can and they set themselves up to be able to. They make amiibo, which they plan to use for games after smash 4, so I think they'll have something cooked up after smash 4 and the gc adapter.
     
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    Amiibo????
    What is?
     
  17. Darxmarx

    Darxmarx The Learning Star Warrior

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    Sorry for the late reply.
    A summary on Super Smash Bros. Amiibos can be found here.
     
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    You didn't see the nintendo e3 conference concept???
     
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    Nah..was doing other things. These little trinkets seem kind of cool.
     
  20. Greatest_Aether

    Greatest_Aether Forum Reg of sorts

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    Wait, Darxmarx only uses a wiimote?
    BS.
    There's no way anyone can be that good with a wiimote alone...
     
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  21. Bashdemears

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    Darx, kirby's bair is rape
     
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    Greatest_Aether Forum Reg of sorts

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    He even beat my Ike and Ness...
    I'll just be in the corner, totally not sobbing my eyes out or anything...
     
  23. Darxmarx

    Darxmarx The Learning Star Warrior

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    Uh... I hate to break it to ya... I do use a Wiimote alone :eek:
    Thanks for the compliment though...
    Also, yes Bash, Kirby's bair is rape.
     
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    I can't hear you. I'm too busy trying to forget any online match we've ever had. Except for that one HRC. :D
     
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