Brawl Minus 4.0BC: A New Era!

Pin Clock

Project Leader
Minus Backroom

Since the dawn of time, when the Minusaurs roamed the earth, one question still remains an illusion to us: "When will Brawl Minus 4.0 get out of beta?" "When will we be able to experience the very best Brawl Minus has to offer?" Well, as of right now, we've prepared the best we have to offer for you today!

But we can do better yet, so this is still not 4.0.

Welcome to Brawl Minus 4.0BC; Before Completion. Like Evolution itself, each version builds on the last and improves its flaws, and BC is no exception. Enter the likes of our first new characters in two years, Waluigi and Mewtwo, and wreak havoc with the many changes provided in this build, and take on tons of new styles! This is the newest evolution of Brawl Minus, and it's finally here!

Download Brawl Minus 4.0BC here!

If you have downloaded 4.0BC before September 7th at 6:30 PM EST, please redownload!

Root folder for most Minus files is now Minusery instead of Private

Global Attributes:
Fall Speed: 1.1 -> 1.05
Jump Speed: 1.0 -> 1.05
Hop Speed: 1.0 -> 1.05

Announcer and Master/Crazy Hand has been changed to Elliot Gindi/SIXSIXSIXDAMAGE
Entering the CSS now says "CHOOSE YOUR CHARACTER" instead of "SURVIVAL"

Removed codes related to Pokemon Trainer

Waluigi joins Brawl Minus as the first newcomer into the series! Scream at, Breakdance on, and swing your tennis racket all over your foes as Luigi's self-proclaimed rival! Waluigi has plenty of jump height, but not as much horizontal movement. His Down Special is also a mixed bag of moves, so be sure to utilize all of the many tricks this cheater has up his sleeve! Or you can rely on the classic WAA!, which you can charge to maximum power!

A special thanks to MarioKing64DS for giving us permission to Minusify this character
Mewtwo Strikes Back!

Once again take control of the legendary psychic pokemon and see how he takes over the world of Brawl Minus! Shadow Ball now hits through opponents, but perhaps the most terrifying change is his Teleport, which can now not only be cancelled into attacks, but used twice in the air! And if you think you can escape your fate, THINK AGAIN! Mewtwo has foreseen this with his new Down Special, Future Sight, and will catch you in its trap, allowing him to come in for the kill! The era of Mewtwo has just begun!

A special thanks to Starwaffle and Pik for the models and the former PMDT for the animations
Standing grab
Active frames 4-6 -> 6-8

Waddle Toss
- Slowed endlag a bit (fsm 2.5 -> 2.2)
Grab cancel is now only on-hit

Auto-Cancel Frame 33 -> 30

Rocketbarrel Jetpack
-No longer goes into Special Fall, can only be used once per airtime
-End animation changed to reflect this.
Hop V 1.95 -> 2.34
Jumpsquat 3 -> 4

Cancel frame 31 -> 25, Landlag 7 -> 9

Cancel frame 31 -> 25, Landlag 9 -> 11

Momentum boost x1.1

sliding off ledges is allowed in more subactions, making it behave more proper and less clunky

Can now grab edge during charge animation.
Can now grab the edge during the "moving" animation, instead of just the end

SFX changed to be identical to Melee's
4 new recolors added!

Auto Cancel Added at interrupt

Landing lag reduced when landing perfectly on a platform

Endlag 8 -> 15
Cooldown 25 -> 20
This change was made to reduce judgespam while also not making the move's cooldown too too long.

Dash Attack
No longer stage spikes opponents grabbing the ledge
- reverted to 3.Q

- Jump V 2.54 -> 2.667
- Hop V 1.538 -> 1.615

Dash Attack
- Now gets armor on Frame 7

Gerudo Dragon
- Fixed this move having Super Armor
Griel Ike costume and 3 recolors added!

- momentum compensated for additional gravity

- no longer puts people into downed status

-grounded cancel adjusted to disallow spot dodges.
-Air end animation changed to go to Fall rather than Special Fall

Charging in the air now behaves the same as charging on the ground

Ledge grab limit reduced from 5-3
No longer has Super Armor
Can no longer heal Ike to below 0% if Ike has between 1-3% damage
4 recolors added!

kbg increased by 5 to prevent ease of chain grabbing.

No longer stage spikes opponents

Final Cutter
Removed all cancels other than Wall jump and ledge grab.
A lot of the cancels had lead into infinite recoveries due to how quick most of his aerials and dodges are, so we couldn't keep this function in any longer. Wall Jump and ledge grab however are harmless and thus were kept.

Copy Abilities
Marth- added lingering hitbox after initial thrust with slightly more shield damage than Marth's.

Final Smash
Fixed a bug where Kirby would enter an endless loop VS. Ice Climbers
4 recolors added!

Explosion GFX readded

Royal Rampage
Royal Rampage immediately enters endlag when walking offstage.
While this does aid Bowser players in small ways, this was primarily done to make his AI a bit less of a joke, since it thinks it's using Fire Breath.
Item Throw Power reduced from 1.5 to 1.25
This allowed us to nerf both the power of his bombs and his Deku Nuts without touching the items directly
All alt colors reworked

gravity increased 0.0625 -> 0.0665
Removed self damage on standard utaunt
removed self damage on max aura sphere charging

- Now takes lucario up to 999%.

Double Team
- Grab cancel removed
- slowed reapper a bit.(fsm=.9)

- hitbox 1 size 10 -> 8.5
- hitbox 1 Y 25 -> 22

- most distant hitbox X pos 18 -> 15.3

- 4 frames endlag added before cancel
- 6 frames landing lag added
- both hits:
- hitbox 1 size 6 -> 4.5
- hitbox 2 size 7 -> 5.5
- hitbox 1 y pos -5 -> -3
- hitbox 2 y pos -5 -> -3

- increased endlag (fsm=.8)

- most distant hitbox size 5 -> 3.6
- second hitbox X pos -4 -> -2

- Cap 1.0 max, .6 min -> 3.0 max, 1.0 min
- Stock scaling removed
- Aura scaling changed to 1.0 min, 1.0 baseline at 998%, 3.0 at 999%
Chimera Lucas and 3 recolors added!

Now given a tapped variant that does not freeze foes

removed stun element
This was done to remove an infinite that was discovered with Lucas that worked against half the roster.
Princess? Luigi and 3 recolors added!

Green missile:
- Nerfed first hitbox knockback a bit.

- Added 2 secondary hitboxes to the move. Now has 3 total, descending in power.
While the first hitbox is really strong, the second and third are incrementally weaker.
the second hitbox comes out frame 24, and the last comes out on frame 36. there is only
ever 1 hitbox active, the others are removed before the others come out

- Now loses most of his momentum if he connects with a shielding opponent.
In previous versions, we had noticed that Green Missile was not only stronger in kill power than Super Jump Punch, but it was also much safer, effectively making Super Jump Punch pointless outside of recovery or being at the very top. Green Missile now has some risks to it that would make a Luigi player think about his options more

Super Jump Punch
-nerfed sourspot hitbox a bit, killing off the top at anything about 60 was a bit much for luigi's damage output and air to ground transition.
The sweetspot hitbox has not been altered.

Final Smash
Welcome to MINUS WORLD.
Everything but Luigi is now completely frozen in time.
His foes cannot escape anything coming to them.
They won’t even realize they’ve been KO’d.
Time flows again.
Side Taunt
-Animation reverted back to Brawl animation to fix animation issues.
-0.4* Frame Speed Modifier added on Frame 41 until Frame 61 (making the wait between the two Frame points about 50 Frames).
-Metal is activated on Frame 72 (technically Frame 132).
-Can interrupt on Frame 81 (technically Frame 141)
-Total length increased to about 160 Frames from 150 Frames.
In short, we fixed the Metal Cap animation's quirks and slightly sped up how long it takes to get Metal.

-Will now use the double UpB if he is below the edge
Famicom Marth and 3 recolors added!
NES Meta Knight and 3 recolors added!

Dimensional Cape:
Sweetspot kbg 101 -> 95

Drill Rush:
Startup 15 frames -> 17 frames
Endlag 8 (on final hitbox hit)/30 -> 15
Final hit knockback 1 WBK -> 50 BKB
Now transitions into grounded ending animation when landing
PJ Ness and 3 recolors (one Minus exclusive) added

PK Flash
No longer goes into Special Fall

PK Thunder 1
Added a small pulsing hitbox around Ness that can repel foes. This hitbox comes up every 15 frames and deals small damage and knockback.

Press A to OKAY! moved here from side taunt
The easter egg that used to be on side taunt was originally a leftover from Bat Ness, but we moved it to the proper taunt so you can OKAY even more
Turnip Pull:
Can no longer be performed out of special tumble states (shield break fall, star ko, etc)
Fixed an RNG related glitch where Peach would not pluck items with the intended frequencies (specifically Peach should now be able to pull green shells)
The reason Peach pulled nothings in 4.0b was because she was attempting to pull Snorlax and Waluigi (the Assist Trophy). However, Pokemon and Assist Trophies aren't always loaded, so she tried to pull unloaded data, winding up in pulling nothing. Now she will pull something that is always loaded in any match.
All recolors reworked, Melee alts added, Ukelelechu added

- furthest hitbox x-offset 16 -> 14
- second furthest hitbox x-offset 11.5 -> 10.5
- closest hitbox x-offset 7 -> 8

- BKB 53 -> 57, KBG 22 -> 25, Angle 138 -> 133

- Charged self-damage 10 -> 8

- Charged self-damage 8 -> 6
- Charged shield damage 48 -> 32 (total damage to shields, 56.4 -> 40.4)
- Looping outer hitboxes size 5.2 -> 4.8, Y-Offset 6.4 -> 6.0, X-Offset 8.0 -> 8.2
- Looping inner hitboxes size 2.9 -> 3.4

- Charged self-damage 10 -> 6

- Charged self-damage 12 -> 10

- BKB 74 -> 78
- KBG 74 -> 70
- Angle 49 -> 55

- Damage 8 -> 6
- Trajectory 108 -> 75
- Y-Offset 0 -> 7
- KBG 67 -> 84
- BKB 73 -> 76
- Hitlag multiplier 1.25 -> 1.75
- Up-special cancel removed
Now players shouldn't be able to CHUU as hard
Skull Bash
Wall jump cancel added

Looping hits removed (always strong hit)
Final hit damage 10 -> 17, shield damage 0 -> 12, kbg 116 -> 80
Pikmin Toss
- Cancel moved back 3 frames (18 -> 21)
Is now Heavenly Light. Shower foes above you with non-flinching damage while performing this move.

Pit can no longer use this move multiple times in the air
This was removed due to it leading to Pit having an infinite recovery. Don't worry though, Pit Players, you still have your SideB in the air to aid your recovery!
Pokemon Trainer has been removed from the game
This section is only really here so it won't have to be explained in each Squirtle, Ivysaur, and Charizard's sections. Pokemon Trainer has been a longtime stay in Minus, but his removal was decided on for the following reasons: To fix bugs related to spawning and buffers (sometimes they would suddenly UpB right from the respawn pad despite you not pressing anything) as well as the difficulty of balancing Squirtle Ivysaur and Charizard with the ability to change into one another at will, given they are all drastically different characters in terms of weight power and playstyle. In turn, each Pokemon now has a grounded DownB and a unique Final Smash.
5 recolors added!

Bullet seed:
Velocity gain increased to adjust for gravity changes

Ivysaur forgot Leaf Storm
and has learned Giga Drain!
Grab your foes and draw them to you for a healing grab! Great for when you’re in a pinch!

Final Smash
Is now Solar Beam
5 recolors added!

Fair redesigned to be smaller but slower, and stronger.

Is now Dragon Rush
Dragon Rush is a horizontal recovery move with mild heavy armor and hits multiple times.

UpB ledgesnap changed from 9-4

Is now Stealth Rock. Stealth Rock can be B Reversed.

Final Smash
Is now Blast Burn Blitz
Charizard fires off 10 non-aimed Blast Burns in rapid succession! use this move wisely!
5 recolors added!

Improved entry animation

Now has a grounded variation of Aqua Jet (DownB)

Final Smash is now Whirlpool
Squirtle creates a deadly whirlpool around him that traps foes inside. He can move along the ground while using this move.
Note: For the sake of simplicity, the name Nana is used to refer to the Partner Climber, and likewise, Popo refers to the climber you play as.

Can now only die when in hitstun
While this doesn't affect too much compared to her only being able to die in special fall, it does fix a few flukes and ensure that Nana's death comes from her opponent, not from her messing up.

Solo upwards initial velocity 1.9 -> 2.8

Squall Hammer
Nana snap distance 30 -> (basically) infinite
Initial solo grounded velocity reduction 25%/10% -> 0%
Gravity .1 -> .065
Max downwards velocity 2.8 -> 1.8
Mash window 6 -> 8
Mash boost .6/.8 -> .8/.9
Aerial solo initial vertical velocity boost .6 -> 1.2
Grounded acceleration .09 -> .1
Grounded max horizontal velocity 1.1 -> 1.3
Aerial acceleration .08 -> .09
Aerial max horizontal velocity 1.3 -> 1.5
Synced wall bounce momentum conservation .75 -> .5
Can grab ledge after frame 12/13

tl;dr version: Nana will teleport to Popo at the start of squall hammer similarly to belay and Squall Hammer generally moves slightly faster and is more responsive

Nana can now grab again
All of Nana's throws freeze foes to prevent infinites
Down-throw BKB 40 -> 50

Cancels removed

Side Taunt
Gravity has been removed, replaced with Secret Power
Jigglypuff spins around and poses, unleashing a Secret Power. What kind of power? That's a secret!
Uncharged laser now hits straight up on grounded targets. Still hits away aerial targets.
Uncharged laser knockback on grounded targets E/E -> 46/E
Base Knockback increased, Growth decreased

Charged laser attribute reverted to Paralyze.

Grounded side-B reverted to 2.X.6
R.O.B. will now fly towards his foes while using this move, but only if he starts this move while on the ground.
Grounded side-B reflect property removed, still reflects things when he starts this move in the air.
When we took the zoom functionality out in 4.0b, we saw R.O.B. got hurt by this more than we expected, and we we researched him, we found it was only really broken when he gained tons of momentum in the air with it. Thus, why the function was only restored on the ground, and was given different utility in the air. Now R.O.B. should have a decent way of getting in on his opponents again!
Awakening Roy and 3 recolors added!

Up Smash
Reworked, is now a single sweeping hit

Neutral Air
Damage increased on sweetspot by 2% on both swings
Landing lag reduced by 5 frames

Forward Air
Ending lag reduced by 5 frames
Landing lag reduced by 4 frames

Up Air
Added Fire GFX when using the attack
Ending lag reduced by 2 frames

Down Air
Ending lag reduced by 3 frames

Angle changed from 50- 60.

Kbg reduced by 20.

Flame Dash
Fixed his facial expression

Last hit Bkb reduced by 40
Last hit Kbg increased by 39
Last hit damage increased by 2%

Final Smash
Roy can no longer heal into negative percents

Results Screen
Roy is no longer a manlet
Power Bomb
Cancel removed from ending animation.
This is to prevent a cheesy strategy that involved Samus covering herself in a barrier of power bomb explosions.
Impa Sheik and 3 recolors added!

Dash Attack
Added intangibility so to prevent her from being hit while invisible.

Up B
Intangibility restored to prevent her from being hit while invisible. 0.8 FSM added after hitbox terminates to add endlag making it more punishable.
MGS Snake and 3 recolors added!
Racing Suit Sonic and 3 recolors added!

Cancel into Spring is now an on-hit cancel
knockback angle changed to be a standard meteor
nAir, bAir
Kill power reduced

Jump Cancel moved from frame 15 -> 19

Ice Arrows
Are now flinchless when on the ground
Before, Ice Arrows were a major nuisance on the ground. Disrupting the foe by imprisoning them in ice, and then sliding them away in a way that is hard for TL to follow up on (but still gave him a positional advantage). Now, Ice Arrows are better in the air for snipes, while Fire Arrows are better on the ground for traps, and Light Arrows are the best of both worlds.

KO Power reduced, KB Angle changed to be less vertical

Pull speed reduced from x1.7 FSM to x1.6
Now has little to no gravity in the air.

Wario Waft (UpB)
Fixed a glitch where he would not gain any height with this move if hit by a windbox

Wario will now let go of whatever item he was holding when spawning the crate. The item will be placed next to him on the crate.
This fixes a bug where the crate would not spawn if Wario was holding an item when using this move.

Hitboxe durations now properly match animation
reduced priority
landing hitbox removed
Wario is no longer bAir: The Character
4 recolors added!

Can no longer jump in the air for 20 frames after your previous jump.
This is to prevent Yoshi players from accidentally wasting both of their midair jumps.
Young Zelda and 3 recolors added!

Magic GFX added to all dodges

Up B
Growth drastically increased, making it into a KO move.
Venus Lighthouse
This stage has been added over Mario Kart.

Peach's Castle
Is now back over Mushroomy Kingdom
Bowser's Castle makes its grand return!

Dreamland 64
This stage now replaces Dream Greens

The following stages have had their boundaries changed:
Stage boundry changes (Dead Horizontal/Cam Horizontal, Dead High/Cam High, Dead Low/Cam Low
Battlefield: (230/170, 180/130, -115/-50) -> (230/180, 180/150, -115/-70)
Final Destination: (240/180, 180/130, -115/-60) -> (240/190, 180/150, -115/-70)
Pokemon Stadium 2: (250/180, 180/130, -125/-50) -> (250/200, 180/150, -125/-80)
Spear Pillar: (230/160, 180/130, -115/-50) -> (230/180, 180/150, -115/-70)
Smashville: (220/160, 180/130, -115/-50) -> (220/170, 180/150, -115/-70)

Halberd: (230/160, 190/140, -95/-20) -> (230/180, 190/160, -95/-50)
Fountain of Dreams: (198.75/123.75, 202.5/112.5, -146.25/-84.75) -> (200/150, 200/170, -145/-100)
Lylat Cruise: (230/160, 180/130, -125/-50) -> (230/180, 180/150, -125/-80)
Yoshi's Story: (~175/~125, 168/118.3, -91/-49.7) -> (175/125, 170/140, -90/-45)
Wario Ware: (170/130, 180/130, -104/20) -> (210/160, 180/150, -105/-60)
Lavender Town: (200/145, 200/155, -100/-35) -> (200/150, 200/170, -100/-55)

Fixed certain stage images and names being wrong on the SSS
Fixed some menus having the wrong color text
Fixed Giga Drain going into its bThrow animation after connecting
Fixed several characters having incorrect BPs
Fixed Menu SFX

As it has been said time and time again, BREAK THE LIMITS!
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Bent 00

Longtime Limit Breaker
Looking forward to trying this out. I had a feeling Mewtwo would be added.

Can Snake do all four of his kicks out of a full-hopped N-Air now?


The changelog is missing a spoiler for Falco, Wolf, DK, Captian Falcon, and ZSS, were they just unchanged?
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So it appears fallspeed increase was cut in half [I believe it was 1.0 originally], and jump/hop [I assume FH/SH] was adjusted as well? Hmm... wonder how it'll feel...


I have no idea why Fox jumpsquat was adjusted, but lol 20XX SFX.

lol Ganon nerfs [I understand them because they're intended to make moves work as intended, but still, lol]

No more Aether super armor? Interesting... not sure how I feel about that. More gimpable, but more interactive...

Did Kirby lose the shockwave cancel [i.e., the ability to just shoot out the projectile on the ground]? If so, RIP that... I'd think there would have been another way to patch that... also, couldn't people just have limited final cutter to twice per airtime or something??? [Disregard this complaint if it can still make shockwaves while grounded.]

Yay Bowser RR buff [technically].

Yay Link item nerfs [indirectly]. I wonder if it allows bomb jumping?

Clutch Lucario double team nerf, not sure what aura means [he only gets aura at 999%? can he super taunt whenever now?], don't think dair landing lag needed nerfs [that's a staple as almost lagless in other smash games, so it seems weird, although it is more powerful in Minus so ehhhhhhh].

This post is plenty long *and* I have to go somewhere so I'll finish reading the changelog later [please please please tell me Pikachu SH AC dair is back...] and comment what else I think afterwards. So far, it looks like what I'd guess is several steps in the right direction.

Pin Clock

Project Leader
Minus Backroom
Did Kirby lose the shockwave cancel [i.e., the ability to just shoot out the projectile on the ground]? If so, RIP that... I'd think there would have been another way to patch that... also, couldn't people just have limited final cutter to twice per airtime or something??? [Disregard this complaint if it can still make shockwaves while grounded.]/QUOTE]
Kirby can indeed still make shockwaves when grounded


Failure Incarnate
I would be playing this game so hard if the download hurried up

...And my Wii lens wasn't dirty.

Dive Missile

it's a celebration for the end of the world!
is it just me, or are all the DL links broken?

the mediafire one doesn't load the captcha and the others just don't load period, does anyone have a mirror?


Well-Known Member
my question is what files do i have to remove to update my old brawl minus to the current brawl minus?


New Member
is it just me, or are all the DL links broken?

the mediafire one doesn't load the captcha and the others just don't load period, does anyone have a mirror?
If you've got AdBlocking on your browser, disable them for Mediafire. I had to do that to get the captcha to show up and download the Minus Art version (why was that the only one uploaded to Mediafire, BTW?).


Well-Known Member
What a welcome surprise! Will definitely be downloading and playing this tonight.

I just have one question. Was the Samus tether bug that crashes the game fixed?