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No double posting. Just a reminder. 17: peach gains backwards momentum after a dtilt if a smash attack is executed afterwards, or she tilts back on the control stick. LOL I need to see that now dood!

11: While shielding, bowser can turn around and grab foes directly behind him straight from his shield by pressing a and b. This has been around for a looooong time.

Remember, we aren't simply pointing out changes from the changelog. Explain Easter eggs too and point out things that flew under the radar for some people. 6: Mario and Luigi have an alternate attack when B is held instead of tapped. These moves, Firebrand and Thunderbrand respectfully...

4: Holding the A button and/or jump button while Mario is doing a dair right after he does a jump will grant him significantly more height! Improves recovery and gives just a bit more range to that last hit on dair!

I believe it was said that d3s minions are an article and if you replace them for something else, d3 will have paper Mario's partners.... It'd be cool if we could do that, but that may not be possible.

That's not a real issue, but I also main falco and liked his previous Nair better. Can someone point out why this one is better? Or why last version was changed to this? I don't like changes like this without justification because then I don't know what was wrong.

The issue with paper Mario here is you got button commands all over the place. Remember that Mario probably moving around while doing these things or even avoiding and attacking other foes. There would need to be a lot more fixed things about this. Pretty tough to do, it mention creating the...

Amen to that bent. We should also all get a working chat open.

I have random character issues. I hear others did too. It is believed that it is caused by random mistakenly picking random to play. Try not using random character select. It's a pain, but I currently use an online random number generator.

We should be able to use it if we animate the shirt out of it though right? If ours looke better and stuff, there should be no dispute. We should be justified in taking certain things from pm btw if they do anything with pichu :)

I actually like the idea of link getting the jump attack somehow. If fsmash could be sped up when it is uncharged, I wouldn't mind seeing that become the jump attack. I wouldn't be heart broken if he didn't get it though either. Link has gotten a lot of stuff as is, even though it does all...

Anything from way back then holds no meaning now, as they are called and referred to as taunts now. Taunts are just made to get people to approach you. Why do people not understand this? This happens in life in general during discussions too and adds more character to the character and the...

I kinda agree with that. Upsmash spikes!??? His bair isn't useless, just different. I haven't been able to figure out pichu.... Can I see combo vids? There was only one up before that wasn't really good.

Yeah sure. I think I'm kinda hard to please though. I'd rather see moves in practice than discussing it. I'm not the guy that usually figures out how moves should work if you have to literally create all a characters combos and moves. I got experience with psa or even using foreign psa from...

Don't say that yet. Part of the reason for not doing some of these things may be just to not compete with smash 4 pit (and palutena?). But yeah, any of these are good if they don't become over centralized.

So you have ideas for these characters moves then? I am very limited on my knowledge of these characters. I hate to say this, but this thread is most likely premature. I can't imagine any more additions untill pichu is refined. Samus also needs a lot of work... or none practically if they'd...

Wait, are walking random stage select or character select? I have no issues at all with stages except being unable to select which ones are on and off. It's the random character option that freezes.

What is wiimm?

Wait, friend codes will be lost? I better get mine there at some point!

I'm not a dev, but I see great stuff here! Hope you get excepted!