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I think It's a pretty good idea, but I doubt the Dev Team will be open to this since they don't like changing the game... How is incorporating a general mechanic lazy... Every game has general mechanics. Just because Minus uses ONE mechanic from Melee/PM doesn't mean the whole game is changing.

I agree with everything here. Also I appreciate you for the well written polite(?) post. I broke my nose on that wall of text tho

But I do think that giving Falco's Melee Shine to Fox would still be really cool and I don't see any reason why not to. Let's hope the Devs think the same.

It's very hard to get the opponent with the part that pulls inward, so it's not that useful. However I don't think his shine needs a complete overhaul. Also please avoid double/triple posting. There's an edit button for a reason.

I think that would actually be really cool and fit into minus very well, but I'm not sure the dev team will like it... We can hope!

Nope. It's the same both ways. People reverse it because it's easier to recover afterwards if you need to grab ledge. Read Tai's marth guide for more detail.

Should I make an updated MU with the new feedback or wait a bit? Also ENB you could try being a bit more polite with your criticism

Wow you guys manged to post a lot in my 2 days without internet... I think for the most part AGentleStar's list is pretty accurate. I don't really know much about Bowser, but I think his peach MU might be even or worse. RR gets negated by float and he struggles to get though retreating fair...

Necroposter be gone

that's fine, mine will be done Sunday as well due to new England snow

I think wolf should be at least minus one, not to sure about sonic or ness. On paper, it seems like Zelda would be horrible for Bowser, but we haven't really seen that matchup ever so not too sure

THANK YOU SO MUCH THAT'S WHAT I SAID BEFORE AND YOU ARGUED WITH ME FUR DAYZ

Yeah, and if he switches sides he can actually do it forever

My computer gets here on the 12th :o I'll finally be able to enter a tourney for once

This thread is dedicated to creating a matchup chart for Bowser, and eventually every character.

OK, I'll make Bowser's thread in one second. Is there a way to lock this form for a bit?

One day...

Yeah, patches make it interesting, though I don't think that the patches should be major, or they'll affect tourney players too much

Looking forward to good ike play! One of my friends messed around with him for a bit, it seems like he has a lot to offer. And when you get results, he'll finally be high on a tier list!

Can't play tonight, I'll definitely contact you on discord. Last time was fun till you picked d3