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Idk if you remember when we played, but you back to back four stocked me... I figured it out eventually, but still... Also, would you like to play again? I'll not be satisfied till I take a game.

Not gonna lie, I'm kinda scared of you getting access to netplay lol Ike is low for the same reason as toon Link, olimar, and puff. No results yet.

Well, shit me sideways Yeah, having your input would be great. What do you think of the current list?

I think ivy is good, but I'm bias because BC bodied me :( How could we get in touch with bc?

Is the new list better?

It's not major enough to justify him being that low on the list though.

OK, but if you ever need a backup I can do it Nvm, Mawootad putting me out of work

Yeah, I'd love to play then sometimes. Also BC win the first official tourney with ivy, so she does have more results than Bowser/samus.

I agree that DK should be moved up, not so sure about bowser or Samus. Ivy is definitely better that Bowser or DK, plus she has way better results than either of them. I'll move olimar and TL down tho.

You can't b reverse his down special yet, and game and watch should normally be able to go right above Gannon, avoiding the situation completely. even if he rides the wall, you can hold down shield during his up special to auto tech.

up throw has less kbg, making combos possible later on. Forward throw chain grab can't be DI'd away anymore, and the up special change helps him against floaties. He was already good, these changes still help tho. The momentum bug is still just as dumb.

We used your list as a base then adjusted it, so edit the suggested one instead.

In the current suggested Tier list, ZSS is above GnW. Also how did you edgeguard GnW with Gannon's Down-B? Roy and Charizard both received buffs which covered a lot of their bad matchups from 4.0b. I honestly think Bowser sucks, and he'll probably move down in the future. I can definitely say...

OK, give me a bit I tried to merge the lists to the best of my ability, but I used as much on Mimsy'd list as I felt was accurate based on the info from the other threads and such. Mimsy, why did you put Charizard so high? I never get to play against him so I really don't know...

I'm actually trying to avoid this situation... Please use the tier list in the OP as a base, then describe changes. If everyone proposed there own list, we'd get no we, just like the other treads. Mawootad's post is what I'm looking for in this thread. I'm trying really hard to get everyone to...

Yeah, your probably right. Mostly I put him in A tier because I haven't really seen anyone use him. Also do you have any input on ordering the tiers?

Current Proposed Tier List: Editable Version: bminus==S|0|29|26|22|31|32|21==A+|1|3|16|28|25|8|12|23|43==A|2|34|37|19|30|1|33|7|2|14|36==A-|3|39|41|5|9|24|11|18==B+|4|42|40|4|15|6|17==B|5|13|35|27|38|10|20 Tiers are ordered.

Hello everyone! Brawl Minus has yet to have an official tier list like every other game, so we might as well start now! I've created a tier list that I think is pretty accurate, but I'm not to sure, and I'm very open to changing it. Keep in mind that tiers have been ordered and are most likely...

If you do them biweekly, i can definitly find the time to stream at least the 3 finals games once i get my computer. Ican also upload the vods to my channel if youd like.

Oh, OK. Also I'd just like to say all the proposed changes for minus are lookin real nice ;) ADDITION: Hey Pin. A while back I wanted a way to combo out of Nana's throws, but I didn't really have any ideas how without giving IC's the infinite back. I was wondering if you could change how the...