Brawl- M3: Mirror Match Masters

Neville

GG M8s
Minus Backroom
Here's something I used to help run back on the GameFAQs SSBB board when I played vBrawl online a lot:

Champion & Runner-Up rankings for each character! This will encourage players to challenge the best players of any character, which is one of the best ways to improve and learn new techniques. Here's how it works:

- Only Runner-Ups can challenge a Champion for his or her title. Runner-Ups can be challenged by anyone.
- If there are no Runner-Ups, anyone may challenge a Champion for his or her title.
- You must wait at least 24 hours before you can re-challenge a Champion or Runner-Up after losing to one, unless he or she offers a rematch sooner.
- If you challenge a Champion or Runner-Up, and he or she does not arrange to play you within one week, you win the title by default.
- Champions who lose a title by default for not arranging to play in time are demoted to Runner-Ups if a Runner-Up slot is open.
- If there is only one Runner-Up and no Champion, the Runner-Up may claim the Champion slot.
- If there are two Runner-Ups and no Champion, they may have a title match to decide who is the Champion.
- An empty Champion slot may be claimed by anyone if there are no Runner-Ups.
- An empty Runner-Up slot may be claimed by anyone.
- Title holders lose all their titles if they are unresponsive for one month.
- You may give up any titles you have at any time.
- A Runner-Up does not automatically become Champion if the Champion spot becomes empty; it must be claimed.
- All Champion slots will be locked until either one week passes or two Runner-Ups challenge each other for a Champion slot.
- To participate, you must post your Friend Code. Codes from Glyph's BDOT Tournament series are already posted below.
- Post the results of title matches in this topic, and someone will update the listing of current title holders.
- Feel free to post announcements of challenges or any relevant discussion in this topic as well.
- There is currently no limit on how many titles you may hold at once.

For now, all title matches will be best of two out of three, with the same rules as Glyph's BDOT Tournament series. Stage availability may vary.

The actual listing of current Champions and Runner-Ups will be located in the second post of this topic for now. It may be moved to a public Wiki or something later on, because I'm going to need help keeping it updated. Any suggestions on how to do this are welcome!

TITLE MATCH RULES:

- Everyone will be using the most recent codeset. For the sake of getting things running, no custom stages will be allowed (I highly recommend redownloading the full version with no mods, and take extra care that any skins or other mods you add will not interfere with online play. Also, take a minute to make sure your wii is connecting to the internet effectively before you need to play.

- We will be using the following neutrals/counterpicks. If you feel a stage should/shouldn't be included let me know, but I may or may not include it.

Legal Stages:

Neutral
- Final Destination
- Pokemon Stadium 2
- Smashville
- Yoshi's Island
- Battlefield

Counterpick (NEW)
- Delphino Plaza
- Fountain of Dreams

- Halberd
- Kongo Jungle
- Lavender Town
- Metal Cavern
- New Pork City

- Pokemon Stadium 2
- Rumble Falls
- Skyworld
- Spear Pillar
- Temple
- Warioware
- Yoshi's Story



Feel free to suggest changes in stage availability.

- Before game 1, both players will strike a neutral stage and three counterpicks (Players can opt to wait to ban counterpicks after game 1 ends as well. Up to you guys). Both players will then either agree to a first stage from the remaining neutrals or randomly select one from the remaining 3 (I'm pretty sure it randomly picks which stage to use from the two players, so just pick the one you want and cross your fingers).

- Loser of game 1 picks a stage from the remaining legal stages. Then the other player if they lose, its pretty straight forward. Loser picks stage.

- You may not select a stage that you have already won on as your counterpick.

- In the event of a crash or desync, the game will only be considered valid if over 4 minutes have progressed with no issues. At that time, the player with more stocks will be declared the winner. Both players may opt for a replay as well. Games that crash before the 4 minute mark will be reset with the same characters and same stage once players have corrected their files.

- Items should be set to NONE and OFF (important to prevent characters like D3 from throwing capsules containing final smashes or other items).

New Rules:
- Default length of Runner-Up Title Matches remains Best of 2/3 Games.
- Default length of Champion Title Matches increases to Best of 3/5 Games.
- If both players agree before the first Match, length may be extended to Best of 3/5, 4/7, or 5/9 Games.
- Challengers must also Private Message (PM) a Title Holder to be able to win a Title by time-out. Just posting your Challenge in this topic isn't enough; if you do not PM the Title-holder as well, he or she essentially has an unlimited amount of time to respond. This does not mean however, that a challenge is unofficial if the challenge is not PM'd through this site. Challenges made on Skype or through the chat room are also acceptable challenges, as long as the challengee responds to them. Time out will only be taken into consideration if the challengee is PM'd or responds to a chat message in other words.
- If a Challenger and a Champ agree on a time and date to fight for a title, and the Challenger doesn't show, the Challenger's Challenge is void and must be resent. If the Champ doesn't show, he or she still has 7 days from the time of the Challenge to reschedule.


Friend Codes:

KEY:
Active
Inactive
Long Inactive
Retired

Bashdemears / deaTh : ????-????-????
Bent 00 / BEN T : 1461-6025-1473
CaptainEllipsis / ????? : ????-????-????
DarkRiku / ?????: 4342-0416-7193
Darxmarx / Darx : ????-????-????
Doqtor Kirby / Dr. K : 5072-0955-0437

Fivavoa / ????? : ????-????-????
GaMeZ / ????? : ?????-?????-?????
Glyph / GLERR : 2278-0677-1888
Gold_TSG / Gold : 5241-1662-5873
Gumbie / ????? : 1593-7158-7900
InsanityReborn / ????? : 0820-3393-6279

Joenen / Pro : ????-????-????
Kienamaru / Kien: 3438-8124-8165
Lightning / Light : 2710-2829-6117
Moneer / ????? : 5157-3316-2089
NEWB / NEWB : 1161-4989-4201
owo / owo : 4511-0563-5519
Pin Clock / Pin : ????-????-????
Poatface / ????? : 1891-0908-9693
Sammi-husky / ????? : ????-????-????
Samus-Chief / ????? : 0430-8325-1481
Shadó / ????? : 5413-1241-7800
Smilindeth / ????? : 0473-7465-4111

The Concept / CNCPT : 2022-4105-1387
Thor / Thor : 4986-6645-6355

WastedCrits / Quinn : ????-????-????
 
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Neville

GG M8s
Minus Backroom
CURRENT TITLE-HOLDERS

Last updated by LB 07/21/2016

Bowser
CH: GaMeZ / ????? (since 07/11/2014)
RU: Doqtor Kirby / Dr. K (since 06/07/2014)
RU: NEWB / NEWB (since 07/11/2014)

Captain Falcon
CH: BC (since 12/04/2015)
RU: Bent 00 (since 12/04/2015)
RU:RetroStation(since 07/21/2016)

Charizard
CH: BC(since 09/28/2015)
RU: Joenen / Pro (since 02/10/2014)
RU:EMPTY

Diddy Kong
CH: CaptainEllipsis / ????? (since 04/27/2014)
RU: EMPTY / ----- (since 02/10/2014)
RU: EMPTY / ----- (since 02/10/2014)

Donkey Kong
CH: BC(since 09/28/2015)
RU: NEWB / NEWB (since 04/20/2014)
RU: EMPTY

Falco
CH: Empty
RU: NEWB / NEWB (since 06/02/2014)
RU: Thor / Thor (since 08/10/2014)

Fox
CH:MegaSaturn (since 2/27/16)
RU: BC since 2/27/16
RU: WastedCrits / Quinn (since ???)

Ganondorf
CH: Bent 00 / BEN T (since 02/14/2014)
RU: Empty
RU: RetroStation (since 07/21/2016)

Ice Climbers
CH: Pin Clock / Pin (since 02/17/2014)
RU: EMPTY (since 08/9/2015)
RU: EMPTY / ----- (since 02/10/2014)

Ike
CH: Kienamaru / Kien (since 06/18/2014)
RU: Bent 00 / BEN T (since 06/18/2014)
RU: WastedCrits / Quinn (since 02/13/2014)

Ivysaur
CH: BC (since 08/9/2015)
RU: EMPTY (since 07/27/2015)
RU: EMPTY / ----- (since 02/10/2014)

Jigglypuff
CH: LB (since 12/04/2015)
RU: Doqtor Kirby / Dr. K (since 06/13/2014)
RU: BC (since 12/04/2015)

King Dedede
CH: BC (since 5/24/2015)
RU: Thor / Thor (since 08/10/2014)
RU: Pin Clock (since 5/24/2015)

Kirby
CH: Empty
RU: Pin Clock / Pin (since 02/10/2014)
RU: Thor (since 8/9/2015)

Link
CH: Kienamaru / Kien (since 06/18/2014)
RU: Thor (since 08/12/2015)
RU: BC (since ???)

Lucario
CH: Kienamaru / Kien (since 07/26/2014)
RU: Joenen / Pro (since 02/10/2014)
RU: RetroStation (since 08/12/2015)

Lucas
CH: Megasaturn99 / LB (since 02/27/15)
RU: BC (since 5/19/15)
RU: EMPTY / ----- (since 02/10/2014)

Luigi
CH: EMPTY / ----- (since 02/17/2014)
RU: Bent 00 / BEN T (since 02/17/2014)
RU: NEWB / NEWB (since 02/10/2014)

Mario
CH: NEWB / NEWB (since 02/14/2014)
RU: Bent 00 / BEN T (since 02/14/2014)
RU: Pin Clock / Pin (since 06/23/2014)

Marth
CH: Empty
RU: Kienamaru / Kien (since 07/26/2014)
RU: Pin Clock / Pin (since 02/10/2014)

Metaknight
CH: EMPTY / ----- (since 06/09/2014)
RU: NEWB / NEWB (since 05/19/2014)
RU: Thor / Thor (since 08/10/2014)

Mr. Game and Watch
CH: Pin Clock / Pin (since 06/23/2014)
RU: NEWB / NEWB (since 02/10/2014)
RU: EMPTY / ----- (since 06/23/2014)

Ness
CH: BC (since 04/27/2014)
RU: Empty
RU: Empty

Olimar
CH: Empty
RU: Thor / Thor (since 08/10/2014)
RU: EMPTY / ----- (since 02/10/2014)

Peach
CH: MegaSaturn99 (since 08/05/2014)
RU: RetroStation (since 8/8/2015)
RU: BC (since 2/27/2016)

Pichu
CH: Pin Clock / Pin (since 04/28/2014)
RU: Sparky(since 8/9/2015)
RU: RetroStation(since 8/12/2015)

Pikachu
CH: Empty
RU: Bent 00 / BEN T (since 06/04/2014)
RU: Thor / Thor (since 08/10/2014)

Pit
CH: Kienamaru / Kien (since 07/30/2014)
RU: CaptainEllipsis / ????? (since 07/30/2014)
RU: The Concept / ????? (since 06/23/2014)

Pokemon Trainer
CH: Empty
RU: Joenen / Pro (since 02/10/2014)
RU: Thor / Thor (since 08/10/2014)

Random
CH: EMPTY / ----- (since 02/17/2014)
RU: Empty
RU: NEWB / NEWB (since 02/10/2014)

R.O.B.
CH: MegaSaturn (since 2/27/16)
RU: BC (since 2/27/16)
RU: Empty

Roy
CH: Darxmarx / ----- (since ???)
RU: Megasaturn / ----- (since ???)
RU: EMPTY / ----- (since 12/02/2014)

Samus
CH: NEWB / NEWB (since 02/17/2014)
RU: LB (Since 8/9/2015)
RU: SAHunterMech / ????? (since 08/09/2014)

Sheik
CH: BC (since 08/26/2015)
RU: Bent 00 / BEN T (since 08/12/2014)
RU: The Concept (since 08/26/2015)

Snake
CH: BC (since 12/04/2015)
RU: SAHunterMech / ????? (since 08/09/2014)
RU: Bent (since 12/04/2015)

Sonic
CH: Kienamaru / Kien (since 07/26/2014)
RU: Joenen / Pro (since 02/10/2014)
RU: WastedCrits / Quinn (since 02/27/2014)

Squirtle
CH: BC (since ???)
RU: LB (since 08/12/15)
RU: EMPTY / ----- (since 02/17/2014)

Toon Link
CH: Farkus (since 2/27/2016)
RU: BC (since 2/27/2016)
RU: Thor / Thor (since 08/10/2014)

Wario
CH: Bent 00 / BEN T (since 02/17/2014)
RU: EMPTY / ----- (since 02/10/2014)
RU: EMPTY / ----- (since 02/10/2014)

Wolf
CH: Thor (since 8/9/2015)
RU:BC (since 8/9/2015)
RU: Bashdemears / deaTh(since ???)

Yoshi
CH: BC (since ???)
RU: Doqtor Kirby / Dr. K (since 08/07/2014)
RU: Bent 00 / BENT(since ???)

Zelda
CH: Bent 00 / BEN T (since 02/17/2014)
RU: Kienamaru / Kien (since 06/13/2014)
RU: EMPTY / ----- (since 02/12/2014)

Zelda & Sheik
CH: Bent 00 / BEN T (since 02/17/2014)
RU: Thor / Thor (since 08/10/2014)
RU: EMPTY / ----- (since 02/12/2014)

Zero Suit Samus
CH: LB (since 12/04/2015)
RU: CaptainEllipsis / ????? (since 04/27/2014)
RU: NEWB (since 12/04/2015)
 
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Bent 00

Longtime Limit Breaker
I went ahead and claimed Runner-Up spots for Captain Falcon, Ganondorf, Ike, Link, Mario, Pikachu, Snake, Yoshi, and Zelda.

Anyone who wants to participate, go ahead and claim any slots you want, or challenge me for the Champion slot of one of my mains. :)
 

Lightning

Ikesexual
Might as well.
RU:
Zelda
Zelda & Sheik
Link
Ike
Marth
Toon Link

I'm sure I won't be champion of any.. :|
 

Bent 00

Longtime Limit Breaker
Cool, thanks for participating! Even if you aren't Champion of any character, the main purpose of this is to help players get better at their mains through Mirror Matches.

I went ahead and claimed the other Zelda & Sheik RU slot, because why not? I need to learn Sheik anyway.

Lightning, let me know if and when you want to have any Champion Title Matches. I'll be online tonight. As long as we're Runner-Ups, we're supposed to accept challenges from anyone.
 

Lightning

Ikesexual
I already know you're going to win.. But, I won't be on late tonight. I have to get up early. I'm available now and later this week. :)
 

NEWB

Well-Known Member
I'll take runner up for

Bowser
Mario
Ganon
Donkey
Falco
I can't do link
Game and watch
Meta knight
Random
Can't do Ike either.
Jigglypuff
 

Pin Clock

Project Leader
Minus Backroom
I'll admit I have no idea how this works, but it seems like a cool idea, so put me in for Kirby, Marth, and Mr. Game and Watch.
 

Joenen

New Member
This is Pro, Newb's brother. Just made an account here. I'll be taking:

Lucario
Pokemon Trainer
Jigglypuff
Random

and because why not

sonic
Peach
Charizard
 

Bent 00

Longtime Limit Breaker
Updated!

Looks like Champion Title Matches can proceed for...

Ganondorf
Ike
Jigglypuff
Link
Mario
Marth
Mr. Game and Watch
Random
Zelda
Zelda & Sheik

NEWB, you can challenge Lightning or me for a Link or Ike RU slot. Or you can wait for one of us to get the CH spot; then a RU slot will open up.
 

Bent 00

Longtime Limit Breaker
^ Done.

I'm available now if anyone wants some matches. Lightning, you on?

I'll be listening on brawlminus.tk/chat.

To clarify: If you want to challenge a title holder, simply post the challenge here or send him or her a PM asking for a Title Match.
 

Sammi-husky

Scientist #1
Minus Backroom
i'll take the third lucario slot, and squirtle. I'll be sure to keep up with this. imma be challenging some people soon :p so lucario players, brace your booty! lol
 

Bent 00

Longtime Limit Breaker
^ Done.

I'm about to play some Minus.

...

Against CPUs, apparently. I guess everyone's busy on Mondays.
 

NEWB

Well-Known Member
I think it most certainly should! It allows a person to display his knowledge and ability with the whole cast. That, and it's an excuse to actually get people to play random.
 

NEWB

Well-Known Member
But why is it a thing bent? And if it is, what happens if you get poke trainer and zelda or sheik? Do you have to commit to one character or does getting any one of them mean you can choose all of them.
 

Bent 00

Longtime Limit Breaker
Random is included mostly just for fun, so don't take it too seriously. :)

If you get a character that can switch to another character midmatch, feel free to use that ability however you want.
 

Bent 00

Longtime Limit Breaker
Hmm, looks like we're off to a slow start since we only have a few participating for now.

I'll go ahead and make the first challenges, then.

I challenge...

- NEWB, for the Ganondorf Champion Title
- NEWB, for the Mario Champion Title
- NEWB or Joenen / Pro, for a Random Runner-Up Title
- Lightning, for the Ike Champion Title
- Lightning, for the Link Champion Title
- Lightning, for the Zelda Champion Title
- Lightning, for the Zelda & Sheik Champion Title

PM me to set up matches! I pick Final Destination as the first stage.
 

NEWB

Well-Known Member
Will do bent, school is kinda busy right now, but I can get matches in on Thursday after 7pm PST.
 

Bent 00

Longtime Limit Breaker
No rush. I'll be busy Thursday from 6PM - at least 12AM EST, maybe later. No plans Wednesday or Friday yet, though.
 

NEWB

Well-Known Member
Plan for Friday perhaps. Also, since pro and I ransom RU's, we will play for champion quite a bit, so it may change from day to day.
 

Bent 00

Longtime Limit Breaker
Friday it is, then. Just let me know whenever you need a title updated.

Lightning has given up the RU slots for Zelda and Zelda & Sheik.
 

NEWB

Well-Known Member
What happens when multiple challenges go on? Since you challenged lightening, can other people not challenge him?
 
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