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Her up b is still a great counter. I actually haven't seen much of sheik lately. Has she been changed in any way? Tybis said that she could use some endlag on the ground, and I think that is right. If the move hits, she won't be able to play off of it anyway, so I think that would be fair...

I'm not disagreeing with you there. Part of the problem is also in the duration of his hitbox. It really should lose its lingering effect.

Guys! Guys! What's the worry? Project M will just do it! And at that point, the minus team will have to help out since there is no way we can get it on our own! Unless it's easy.

Yeah... Outside of low percent combos, Mario has very few combos. He has dair two hit combos, utilt combos, dtilt combos, and dash attack combos. That is it. Most of those are comboed with 1 more move. He makes up for this by having strong and fast smashes. Has anyone tried clanging with...

Pretty much all nuetral specials mess up this way in minus. It's really aggravating. I don't think it has been officially addressed either.

Random DK freezes have always been a thing. They can't seem to find the issue I fortunately.

Sounds interesting. Remember though, that peach is already a good character, but no one can really abuse all of her cancels. So careful with buffing her.

That would also be nice. Porting it to a throw though seems easier and doesn't change his moveset. I'd like that dood if they were doing a revamp of his moveset.

Oh wait I'm stupid. It will basically be an alt forward throw that sends people backwards. It won't look unnatural at all! I love it.

Neither do I. Unless other dash attacks are that good against smashes. They are seldom used against them because they require you to start running, closing the space between you and your foe, and then doing the dash attack, which has start up. I'm open to it losing priority, but only if it's...

And another thing, if they get you with a dash attack when are landing after using all your jumps, that isn't the moves fault. Any dash attack will get you at that point. I'm pretty sure that many dash attacks can cancel with smashes. Can anyone else weigh in here?

Really? Is that intended? Maybe compare other dash attacks before saying it only happens with Mario.

Re: Suggestions for Brawl Minus MAX 3.1 That'd be hilariously funny. I also don't see it as broken since it is easy to avoid since he falls slowly.

What smash does it clans with? Some are pretty weak.

U mean it will send people backward? And he will basically do sheild bash plus helm splitter behind him? Seems weird to me, but I have to see it first.

IMO, it's still easily avoidable by jumping and doing a dair, and jabs also clang very easily with it. Dtilts also do well. That being said, I don't like that it can combo into itself. Maybe this shouldn't happen. That's my only gripe though.

Well, can't the poke trainer get different textures?

I don't know about others, but I'm open to having the metal mechanic changed. I would probably be okay with it even if metal becomes weaker. It's not unfun for my group, but I'll ask around.

Right now, I have my ps3 hooked up. I'm kinda stuck sharing rooms with my bro right now, so I'll get to testing mm match ups soonish. I can't remember if Marth has a chain grab on mMario, but I can tell you that he destroys mm. Also, hope no one took this whole thing too personally. They DID...

I go to school and play minus with people. There are 10 plus there that play minus and I love it. If we are seriously using numbers of course. You do have a point about there being inconsistency, but I see that as more of a "minus to me has always been very disorganized". Taunts that would...