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8 out of 10 players in my groups want Mario's Dash Attack to not chain into itself so easily. As for its high priority... Doesn't Mario need a move that can open up the opponent for follow-ups? If the priority is reduced too much, he'll have a hard time getting combos started when playing...

Re: Suggestions for Brawl Minus MAX 3.1 Same here.

Alternately, Heart Mode could be as simple as just having her Heart moves heal Peach with each hit until she gets KO'ed. That way, it's a reward for Peach doing really well, but it's easy for her to lose it if she lets her guard down. ... Please keep in mind that I do not play Peach often at all.

So you want to give Peach a system similar to the one I've heard Ike is getting? Hmm... All of Ike's moves get powered up in "No Sympathy" mode, but he damages himself with each one, and loses the effect if he uses Eruption. How should Peach's Heart mode work... Here are a few random ideas...

Ohh, I get it now. That makes sense. Sounds cool!

You've still got nearly three months... You can't set aside a few hours to play online before May 20? You must stay really busy. On the bright side, there's SSB4 to look forward to, and who knows... Maybe someone will figure out how to play Wii and DS games on a private server? I saw some...

Re: Suggestions for Brawl Minus MAX 3.1 Agreed. If you get buried or spiked by such an obvious move, you deserve it. :lol: Should Luigi bounce off of an offstage opponent he spikes with Up-B? If he doesn't, he'll suicide...

Yeah, that does seem to be an awkward place to have such an animation...

Re: Suggestions for Brawl Minus MAX 3.1 Here's an idea from Stone, one of my local group's players: How about adding a hitbox to Luigi's fist as he's coming down from his Up B? Maybe it could bury a grounded foe if it connects?

Played some good games against Gold_TSG. He beat my Mario most of the time. Metal Mario is much more aggravating for casual players than high-level players... I guess I fall somewhere in between.

Yeah, you should! I'd like to show you how annoying Metal Mario can be. Remember, you've only got until May 20 to play online. :/ Make the most of it. I don't know much about Wolf's combo game, but it doesn't seem like he would be disadvantaged against MM. I couldn't find any way for him to...

I'm no Bowser main, but I doubt those will be very effective against MM... I'd be interested in playing against a good Bowser and Peach as Mario. Any takers?

Thanks for all that matchup advice, dood. That's what this topic needs. Yoshi cannot chaingrab MM, though. Anyhow, no one is going to convince me that Minus would not be better off without Metal Mario. Continuing with my observations against the CPU... Bowser might be the worst MM matchup of...

Anyone want to play some matches to help figure out which characters are weak against Metal Mario? I'll test characters against always-metal Level 9 CPU Mario in the meantime. Regular Mario cannot chainthrow or lock MM, but his Dash Attack, D-Smash, D-Throw, and U-Throw all combine into...

Any estimate on a release window? I'm looking forward to it!

I quoted the part of Glyph's post I agree with, and the part I quoted doesn't contradict he rest of his post. All we can do now is watch the poll results, and figure out which other characters are weak against Metal Mario.

That's exactly how everyone in my groups (except the Mario players) feel. Thanks for posting, Thunda! Thanks to everyone else considering this issue in depth, too. Just a couple things I think I need to restate: Two justifications for keeping the Metal Cap in keep popping up, which shouldn't...

One of my friends, MJF, already posted his opinion on Metal Mario over on the old board. His name is "Apotheosis of Smash" over there. Here's what he posted: Source: http://www.smashmods.com/forum/thread-6 ... #pid163693 He posted that before the Metal Cap was slowed down in MAX 1.01, but he...

It's easy to use the Metal Cap at least 2 or 3 times during a 4-stock match. I would be interested to see an official poll about this. If you make one, I'll get my friends to make accounts and vote. If Mario lost his Cape in exchange for the Metal Cap, that would be more fair than just getting...

Let's just get back to the original purpose of this topic. Which characters cannot reliably chain Metal Mario or lock him in place? Also, I'm available for matches if anyone's game. Unless you've already played my "B" Grade Mario, I'll start off as him for a while.