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The fair sweetspot sounds okay, and I don't even think fair sourspots needs a nerf really (just shield and hit him), and I would be ok with dthrow and up+B being nerfed a bit (and MAYBE up+B sourspots?), but multiple neutral B projectiles? Gross... I don't like the idea of this new rock smash...

Hey on the plus side, Ike's quick draw no longer leaves him helpless! That should make him a bit harder to gimp (because in Brawl, if you can go out and hit him away once, he's probably dead).

Did they fix that auto-cancelling glitch on DK fair and/or Ganondorf fair???

Actually, Ganondorf being SSS tier above all others wouldn't be so bad. Also no Shrek didn't deserve to get in [saying a character "Deserves" to get in is more or less utter bullcrap], but they somehow didn't include a Coca-Cola representative when the PERFECT choice was STARING at them every...

Hopelessness should not be confused with realistic expectations - I'd certainly attend side events with items, and Apex had one at least once, but they're not going to replace the current standard. That debate has been hashed out and a lot of people really don't like adding extra RNG (and people...

The tournaments without RNG will be what catch on PowerUp - they had that discussion in like 2004 and the anti-items group won. Glitches don't correct themselves - they can try but [I couldn't find the original 13 minute loop where they then rage-quit the game because they didn't get the...

There was literally nothing rude about anything I did on here - the rude part would be withholding codes that I can't use and taunting people - if I have only a single code [which I don't anymore] I have to be choosey about who gets it since there is more than one person who wanted one...

Squirtle. 10 characters on the CSS.

Well if you ain't mad why you bringin' it up bro? And besides I have to narrow it down, and I gave legitimate reasons for my choices (Sprite is an insufficient reason). We don't even know most custom movesets XD. Or any ATs, if there are any, so saying we know everything there is to know is...

That's a lot of posts... this thread is pretty long then.

I don't actually have the demo, my sister did but my 3DS isn't with me so the code was worthless to me (so she gave it away to someone else). That said, someone around here had the demo and I got to try it out. I really only played Link (Mario and Megaman once each) and I thoroughly enjoy Link...

Then there's not a problem Swell.

I wouldn't be surprised if Sakurai had seen mods and took a few of the ideas as his own - it's not like we can sue him or anything XD. Also, my sister gave the spare code to another friend. Sorry people (especially sorry owo, since it was implied here I had a spare code for you since the others...

They have hitstun, they cause flinching/knock people out of attack animations. Unless armor.

Wait eggs??? Did you swallow a Yoshi or something?

Codes are only one use aren't they? Cuz my sister had a friend who gave her a pair of spare codes and offered to put it on my 3DS, but of course I don't have my 3DS so I have no use for the code... but I have no way to decide how to give it to someone here (at this point it'd be a tossup for me...

Greatest_Aether going IN!

Wait... for real? I know they don't auto-cancel but... Wow. Lasers nerfed hard then - no laser -> usmash and laser camping isn't as strong anymore even ignoring auto-cancelling... Falco not high tier for once??? Would not leave me happy... though I think I would still play him (even if only...

I am likely looking at Falco, Samus, Meta Knight, Pikachu, and ZSS almost right away (and some others like Link, Marth, Lucina, Fox, and a Chuck Norris Mii). Have heard Samus has crazy KO power, and her moveset became much better with SDI nerfs. And I like vBrawl Samus and 3.3 Samus so I very...

My theory is that with like a month left, they needed like 2 characters to get to 50 and someone was like "Let's do Doc and Dark Pit!" and people agreed because they needed characters and so they are now in Smash 4. Just my guess though. My, so vulgar.