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About 'Dorf's Warlock Punch... And next update, can you remove Snake's ability to walljump while using the Cypher? It's too easy to walljump off the edge to your doom as you're recovering. Also, Ganondorf can gimp Snake's Cypher recovery incredibly easily with his Up-B... Any workaround for...

How about a compromise? Leave grounded Warlock Punch the way it is in MAX 3.3, but revert the aerial version back to its MAX 1.01 form. That way, 'Dorf could do an offstage Warlock Punch and actually make it back to the stage afterward. If you're gonna make it simply a stronger, slower Falcon...

ZSS has a hard time grabbing Pichu. She must hit it with the tip of her whip to land the grab. A lot of characters can hit Pichu with direct electric-element attacks and not receive any damage from Static. Pichu's feet often appear unattached to his body. A lot of the in-battle character...

I agree with Pin, that style of move doesn't really fit Ike's "brute force" style of swordsmanship.

I noticed this too. The new camera is too sensitive, especially when there are only two players. It was most noticeable for me in the two levels Gold mentioned, but this twitchy camera also seems to be present in several other levels. Please change it back to the slow-panning camera that doesn't...

I agree with all that. I don't agree with this, though: "Personally, I prefer" Falco to keep quiet, or to just say "Fire!" Hearing the whole line several times per match gets old. Same thing goes for Lucario's "It's over".

'Dorf was nerfed. Warlock Punch could already break shields, you just had to be ready to spot dodge or roll to save yourself. No buffs there. Ike's No Sympathy Mode wasn't anywhere near as cheap and OP as R.O.B.'s Multilaser. Eruption itself should have been weakened, or Ike should have been...

I don't get why characters like 'Dorf and Ike are being nerfed when there are other more powerful characters that need nerfs more. If you're gonna nerf anybody, hit the top tiers first and hardest. 'Dorf and Ike are having their options removed, while top tiers like R.O.B. and Dedede have...

So nerf Eruption then, not the whole mode. I suggested reducing its power or making Ike lose his charge if he's KO'ed.

I get your logic, Glyph, but as a Ganondorf main, I persist that Ganondorf really benefits from having a mixup option. He and Ike are far too predictable and punishable now.

The only things I'm really unhappy with are the changes to Ganondorf, Ike, and Link (to a lesser extent). 'Dorf and Ike were severely damaged IMO. There's two FDs, you know. Only the Melee one is weird (what the heck, I know). I miss the pixel art too, but those portraits would each take a...

It's not necessary, but it gave 'Dorf a whole new playstyle option, and made Warlock Punch a LOT more useful. The cancel was also a longtime Minus staple, and it was just really fun to use. I said "slightly lower-level players", compared to you and Glyph. I play against several people who are...

Several of Ganondorf's attacks are high priority, or their hitboxes allow them to beat out attacks they clang with. F-Air and F-Smash, for instance. The bait might not work on high-level players like you and Glyph, but it works on even slightly lower-level players very well in my experience.

There's no other option that gives 'Dorf a break from pure offense and baits the opponent to come to him for a change (that he can fake out of and punish, anyway). Two of my favorite moves to cancel Warlock Punch into were D-Special (Wizard's Foot) and F-Tilt (Sparta Kick). Opponent rushing at...

I gotta ask, why? I can't imagine why an Ike player would like the nuked No Sympathy Mode. I can understand people on the receiving end of it being happy about the change, but not Ike players. The new N.S.M. is inferior to the MAX 1.01 version in every way. Have you tried playing against...

I don't rely on it - I can play aggro 'Dorf just fine - but it's a nice option to have. Playing pure offense all the time wears me out; I like to jump back and bait the opponent to come after me now and then.

If your Warlock Punch gets perfect shielded, you deserve it for being too predictable with your Punches. That's irrelevant, since you can't (and shouldn't be able to) cancel the Gandouken. It's almost like a separate move. You can't expect to actually land a Warlock Punch, unless your opponent...

A decent opponent would be unlikely to try this, since they are unlikely to Perfect Shield, and will probably just end up trading stocks with Ganondorf, or worse: Ganondorf techs in time, and OHKOs them while they're stunned. Shielding the Warlock Punch was only an idea worth considering if the...

That wouldn't be much better than it is now. It needs to be cancellable into anything IMO. Thanks for voting. :)

So that the players' opinion is more apparent regarding Ganondorf's and Ike's changes, I've created separate topics with polls for each of them. http://forums.brawlminus.tk/index.php?threads/would-you-like-ganondorf-to-be-restored-to-his-max-1-01-self.139/...