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Lose a gyro at the very least. Just saying.

Ah. I get a bye in this tourney too? Beginners luck I guess :D

I hope so too. We always spend a say helping someone getting minus to work. There needs to be a brawl portrait and minus minus portrait version for both 2gigs and 4gigs. The 4gig version should come with the minimaLauncher as well. Does Rivo still wprk with minus? That should be thrown in...

Ah. So these patches are no longer named to measure progress but random stuff? Awesome. Final patch level should be 3.SPARTA!!!

Are we waiting for the next patch to release before starting the tourney?

3.Q? What?

But that really isn't the case since this only talking about next build.

I like and hate this. When the devs made this move OHKO, I feel they did their job. They took a move that is or isn't broken and made it better. Just because it wasn't as better as you'd like doesn't change that. However.... You make a very interesting point, much like bent he been making...

Will jabs and fireballs keep pikmin away? I don't see how this mu is particularly bad.

I almost disagree. His air sideb is so amazing that it true combos into all of his aerials. This guy is terrifying no matter where he is and I love it! Depending on how minus evolves, he may need balance tweaking. He has definetly achieved a level power that I want him to stay at more or...

I never noticed any changes from vbrawl, other than the additional nanars and the faster pull in the air. Are you saying that they are bad now? I think it must be an input thing since I can usually pick em up and throw them afterwards.

Luigi's Nair might help. It lingers a bit, so it may kill pikmin like this. If not then oh well. You can also luigi rocket his pikmin th throw off his timing perhaps. I never tried this mu.

You should know that this move hits infront of peach more than it does beneath her, like Jiggs dair.

When and where did he say that?

Explosion is nothin to worry about. I'mp retty sure you have to be on the ground to be instantly killed by it. Otherwise it does 25 damage but has little knockback. Lots of aerials are very shield grab able. Some smashes are too. This is true especialy if you power shield.

Better spacing and more range than her attacks. Projectiles also help.

You are running a clean brawl minus? It's probably something simple, but I don't run the game through USB, so I wouldn't know.

Yes and no to that. Some of ness psi moves and physical moves work wonders together. He could get new ones to compensate though. It's not really something needs attention yet though. They did say it may return someday.

IC verse snake I think is doable since neutral special kills his mines. He has range, but he is slow. Against a good snake they have it tough. Rob has two many ways to hit them and he has fast attacks that are bound to separate them. Neutral special does wall him though since he can't...

They can do combos from dtilt and grabs. That's it really.