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Ness is pretty great. Not best but definetly deadly in the right hands. The same can be said for many characters though. That's what makes tier lists for minus pretty hard. Well, a small community is actually what makes it hard.

I'm no expert either. I personally wouldn't care if it got nerfed a bit.

All four of those characters have easy to gimp recoveries. Not so much zelda unless she ends up in special fall. Most characters that spike can easily trade with Ike's aether and spike him though I don't know if that is how he killed you. Is he using dair as a combo finisher or just gimping...

I mean you aren't gonna get killed at 8 percent each time. I'm just assuming you were falcon for some of the matches? Falcons recovery is super gimpable. Many other characters in minus are either better protected when recovering or can handle sonic in general.

Are the codes that keep the CPU from targeting humans still in the official release? Playing with the CPUs and it feels that way. Edit: I mean it feels as though they are targeting me when before, they weren't as much.

That isn't gonna happen very much bent. Accidents happen. That's the only way that will happen. And you will never let that happen to yourself again. Sonic has combos but does not KO easily. I don't see a problem with it.

Actually bent, I'm on generally the same side as you. She isn't hard to deal with if you know her attacks and you can bait your opponent. I just don't see teleportation and ranged hitbox on fair and bair as necessary. If zelda wasn't good close range, I'd agree with you but she still has the...

I find zelda not even remotely high skill or technical. Fair bair spam and proper abuse of ftilt, dash attack, dsmash, and dair are all really simple to do. It only gets technical when you want to teleport with jab and grab, which isn't even necessary! The only aspect of zelda I struggle with...

I almost threw up

What would the trigger be? A few of her moves are a bit too fast to get that working though, like dtilt, utilt, jab and dash attack. Or am I wrong? Fair and bair are also fast, but those could be mapped to Z aerials like yoshi maybe? I rather support the idea. I actually suggested that a...

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It is.

Baby has a point though. Zard is easy to kill cuz he's fat and easily punishable. Stealth rock is unreliable. Use any move with small armor or do an aerial through them. Getting smacked into stealth rocks is your fault. What was the original idea behind fair? Maybe the move could either...

That must be because people have different triggers set to footstool?

Careful with giving Uair fixed knockback. That isn't a move that should chain with itself. I'm not sure losing half of sing range is necessary. I don't think it should hit people on platforms around her though. Please don't remove the JC on pk flash. That is the only thing that is currently...

I'm in fountain valley, over by Costa Mesa if that rings any bells.

So that is why it's gone. I'm pretty sure that code existed in older builds before the clone engine.

I live in SoCal. I'd like to play you, even if I'll lose. When you say best DK, do you mean in all of his smash appearances or just minus kong?

No darx. He would lose the shield cancel but keep the grab cancel.

I can play you with wario. Maybe you will see something. I like sonic the way he is. You forgot to mention that he is hard to control and does require the user to make good reads. Jigglypuff is tough. She isn't Jiggs if she isn't the wall of pain, but she just doesn't need many of her...