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It's rare that utilt is a safer option than anything else.

I've fought both. Took his DK to two stocks IIRC with jiggs

You don't have to be on the ground. You just have to be close. To all the things about trading: I feel jiggs Is very trade friendly and had comeback potential to rival Metaknight and lucario combined. Maybe im just weird but I will trade stocks up until the last two. Even if im behind. Jiggs...

So here I am. Thinking about jiggly puff and shield pressure. It's generally a very bad idea to shield pressure Jiggs at all. Either jiggs can eat it or you'll both die. So for characters who's meta-game revolves around punishing and pressuring shields, how do you beat the puff?

I should get on that

So is there a list yet?

We need minus 20xx

That was a long time ago Thor...

Wolf. Yeah you guys place him high tier but who actually mains him other than me?

are the platforms in FoD slippery or is it just the main one? If so then I'd conclude it was the slidey buisness Tybis mentioned. If not then minus turned into melee for half a second.

I'd be down for this on Smashville www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahZFnwDVl1

^ These slides are why I hate the left side of Hyrule Castle.

doing an aerial and landing on the ledge of a platform with enough momentum that you slide off. The result is, the instant you slid off, you're returned to neutral. Not really a bug but a result of the game not having endlag for such a thing.

Is ledge canceling possible in minus? If so then its ALOT easier than melee.

Nothing in that changelog intrests me as flying warlock punches dont make sense and there is no reason to have them. Who are you playing against that actually gets faked out by the cancel? I see warlock punch coming, I get the fuck outta doge. I see one coming in the air? I get the fuck outta...

Never played zeus but dood. Bair, fair. Idk what the uair is like in zeus but do that if its not garbage

I love the shoulderless luigi.

Yeah lucario was my only hope.

OH GOD. PLEASE. SHOW. THEM. Show them how you moved pichu, Zelda and G&W up a tier each. We should upload the replays this weekend. When I finish moving, you can play wifi at my place.

The Melee guys say "Pichu is still an airplane and that's good." They guy who was super excited about him thought he was perfect except Pichu's hitbox needs to be extended to his ears, otherwise half of the casts grabs will go right over him.