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Sheik, Zard, Falco, and Ike are all good examples of characters that a brawl main could pick up and immediately perform well with (sans Ike's whole super move thing which I believe is on its way out?). Sheik is faster but fair is still fair, bair is still bair, etc. She gets a lot of new tricks...

You two are so ridiculous lol, how are you not getting this? Look at how absurd your logic is: -Its the only suicide move! That's because its on GANON. You dummies, of course jiggs can recover from more stuff she has a like a million jumps. You're better off asking for Ganon's recovery to be...

Some yes some no, it's not a completely black and white subject just very much leaning one way between the two. Wario I personally prefer with his old up-b and down-b, but things like Lucario's counter are different. Best example I can think of is Olimar's new side-b, where the move is...

True to a concept of taking a character's already established brawl moveset and make it super broken in a way that will feel organic and familiar to a brawl player of said character. There's not any particular version of minus I would really cite as one that got it exactly right, ideally there...

That's a big difference in our views there. I see Brawl Minus as something that should be true to it's origins and you're more looking to push it into unique territory. Neither one is necessarily right or wrong, but deciding that is a very important call that needs to be made.

This doesn't solve the problem of him being able to jc into another downb indefinitely, which is the real problem. Unless there's more to it that i don't see. More true to what Ike should be instead of Ike plus random additions, i like it. Disagreed. D3 CAN be played in that style, but a...

Yeah, it left a bitter taste in my mouth when the game I wanted it to be kept going in what I felt was a bad direction. Didn't really feel like playing something I wasn't passionate about anymore and then smash4 dropped and it was an easy switch. Incidentally I've dropped smash4 now too...

They wouldn't put in the safe flying warlock punch =p Edit: really though, I left because I was tired of arguing the same things day in and day out without ever getting any resolution to it. It was just too much effort with zero payoff so I moved on to other stuff.

Ok, so there's been a plethora of drama bombs going off while I've been doing other stuff. They manifest in a lot of different ways, personal attacks, concerns about the BRoom's effectiveness, people feeling in the dark, all that mess. I think there's a common problem at the core of all this...

For the record this is not why I left.

Haven't read but you're all boners

Can't blame me for not being surprised it was already being considered, even if it doesn't make it through. The last 6 updates haven't exactly shown that rob is on pace for anything but more nerfs

Hey, I pushed to have it removed and was overruled. And really now I'm completely on board, that kind of stuff is what makes minus fun.

No, thats really dumb. Why would you overnerf and already expect to buff it later? All that will do is frustrate the people who use those characters until you decide to give them a decent version god knows when.

Of course, that would also be removed with the side b nerf thats coming in the next update

GGs Aether!

1032-1228-5523 Adding you two now

Fair enough, I didn't mean ALL combo potential but rather a massive hit to it when its not called for. In the mean time, you get your fc in the 3ds main menu under the orange smiley face option at the top of the bottom screen. Let me know when you grab that and we can play a few games, I'm down...