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BRAWL MINUS 4.0b ON THE 4TH!
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Bent 00
Longtime Limit Breaker
Are Kirby's Copy abilities going to be updated anytime soon? I know they're low-priority, just curious.
Ganondorf Kirby's Reverse Warlock Punch hitbox needs adjusting; it doesn't reach far enough in front, and it can hit opponents behind Kirby.
Would it be worth making a thread detailing which powers need addressing, or would that be unnecessary?
Ganondorf Kirby's Reverse Warlock Punch hitbox needs adjusting; it doesn't reach far enough in front, and it can hit opponents behind Kirby.
Would it be worth making a thread detailing which powers need addressing, or would that be unnecessary?
Mawootad
Minus Backroom
It would actually be pretty nice to have a thread dedicated to having cool variants for the Kirby copies, worst case scenario it's a fun activity for everyone, best case Kirby ends up with incredibly awesome hats in 4.0. Also Kirby's abilities will largely not be different in 4.0b; we might modify them for 4.0 proper but right now unique buffs to that many moves (not to mention the BrawlEx hats just not working at all complicating balance) is just too much work for the end result.
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Well-Known Member
*Yawns*
Just woke up from a rather long nap. What did I miss?
Just woke up from a rather long nap. What did I miss?
I don't know but your team is shit. Go OU or go home casual plebscrub.
Lucis Perficio
Radiant Hero of Blue Flames
Would it be helpful to know how Project M did it?
I'm not to sure, but I believe they use Brawl EX as well in adding Mewtwo and Roy, and perhaps even Dr. Mario, Giga Bowser, Warioman, and Sopo.
That said, Kirby's copy of Mewtwo and Roy works as it should, though Kirby receives Mewtwo's side-b as opposed to his neutral-b (would Minus ever decide to include Mewtwo in Minus, they could rearrange that).
ProjectM uses a different clone engine than we do.
Lucis Perficio
Radiant Hero of Blue Flames
Which one do they use?
Also, was anything done about Wario's Crate Farting? It's a severe weakness that it can be used against him while he is standing on it. Basically if the crate is hit while he's on it, it will become the opponent's hitbox and hit Wario. Other than that, his fluid airspeed can also be turned against him. Generally, any move with a wind effect causes his movement to be neutralized on moves like his extended bair, dash attack, and up-b. My recovery attempts are hard-countered by Pit's up-b for example; I'll up-b simultaneously with him (by sheer coincidence) and Pit's wind effect will make it so that my up-b provides literally no distance.
Bent 00
Longtime Limit Breaker
I tried out the new Project M yesterday. Loved Ganondorf's new Neutral B (float/cape) and all the visual polish -- new animations for Dash, U-Tilt, F-Smash, Dodges... Didn't like his Falcon-style Up Smash though.
I wish Minus 'Dorf could float and reflect projectiles.
I wish Minus 'Dorf could float and reflect projectiles.
Thor
Well-Known Member
His Falcon style usmash does like 39% uncharged when both hits connect.
Bent 00
Longtime Limit Breaker
It may be better, technically, but I just prefer the single, powerful kick, rather than ripping off Falcon even more.
Thor
Well-Known Member
I think you mean Toon Link [Link dair doesn't spike, unless you refer to Smash 4].
For what it's worth, I think Falcon should get 64 usmash and Ganondorf should get Melee usmash, so that Ganondorf does a ridiculous amount of damage with the move and Falcon has a cool OoS that starts combos, but something tells me this would be FAR more broken than would be intended, while giving Ganondorf the two-kick usmash isn't as much of a buff as I'd like it to be in my head [maybe a shield cancel between kicks or something would help to break it properly].
I actually massively struggle to do a DACUS with anyone in Minus [did you typo PM??? I dont' think Minus made everyone have a DACUS...], because doing dsmash out of a run means I must either stand still to DACUS or tilt the c-stick sideways, and I have made myself accustomed to neither of those things [I can do alright doing a DACUS standing still in PM it seems, but I often get a running start for those]. So I struggle to even do a basic DACUS with Falco in Minus.
That said, nearly all my Minus play is online, and I can't really do a DACUS in PM online, so there might just be lag johns or something.
Valravn
Well-Known Member
Ah, yep, that was supposed to be PM I was referring to. Ganon does have a DACUS in Minus though. I haven't experimented with using the alternate dash attack to do it, but I imagine that one is even better. (What with Gerudo Dragon giving more of a horizontal boost.) Sonic has an amazing one, though like most of his moves it's ridiculously difficult to aim from afar.
Spookyman
Member
But not every character in Brawl could DACUS, that was actually a major change in PM
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