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Welp... This was a fun challenge. Much raging was had from SD's, but...

No one has fun against D3. XD I only pick him so people can learn the matchup. You think I enjoy maining this Rosalina wannabe? XD

Yes. Please. I won't lie, I rarely get to play people. If you want, we could play tonight. Just hit me up on Discord. I don't check the forums that often.

What's there to be scared about? I'm just a guy who plays most of the roster for fun... and only play my mains when people ask, or if the match is serious. =3

Well... now that I've gotten my first look at it, I can say that for the most part, characters are generally where they're supposed to be. I won't say anything about Ivy's placing, as it would be bias, as the only Ivy main, and she has no results.(yet. =3) Just know, that I believe her to be a...

You guys could just message me on here... or on Discord. I'd be happy to be a part of the discussion, if you want me to be.

I doubt it. You get considerably lower after each air dodge. You can't do it for too long, unless you waste your jump to cancel into Vine Whip. It's not meant to be used as a stalling tactic at all. If anything, the Ivycopter to airdodge is a counter to the "can't air dodge out of tumble"...

Okay... probably not my place to say, but Ivy's recovery is being underestimated here. Ivycopter can be cancelled into either an air dodge or Vine Whip, the former of which lets you Ivycopter again in the same airtime. ALso... Have none of you considered jump-cancelled Vine Whip? Seriously... it...

Well, for starters, I'm really the only Ivysaur main at the moment. And I believe a skilled Ivysaur can beat the likes of the spacies, DK, etc. She has the tools and combos to win a tourney. Once I get netplay, I will prove how good Ivy really is in tourney.

I think her moves do enough damage... Her smashes already have a lot of kill power(combo potential for Usmash's sourspot), and her tilts are kinda fine... FTilt does a lot, DTilt's a poke, so it doesn't need to be buffed in power, and UTilt can combo into itself.

Yo, if you ever wanna play, just hit me up on here, Skype, or Discord. I'll be happy to help you understand Ivysaur better. :D

Always good to see another new face in the Minus community. Glad to have you with us. Though... I gotta say, as a resident Ivysaur main, I can say with confidence that she really doesn't need a buff. She has plenty of options and tools that make her one of the best characters in the game, in...

Update: The match order has been updated to compensate for 4.0BC's CSS order. Let the challenge begin anew! =D

I get why you would assume that, but I assure you, I know my way around Link. Everything you have said is true, Link does have a decent game against most of the cast. But, that's just it. He merely has okay matchups for the majority of the cast, with a few bad matchups(spacies, Pit, Mario...

I don't think he is the worst in the game. I don't think anyone is worst in the game, honestly. I just believe that next to the ICs, Link doesn't have as many great options as the rest of the cast. It's as simple as that. The whole list is based off of that mentality. Everyone is good, some just...

I know... I was working on another update. This is as close to balanced as I can get without seeing character input from certain characters. I apologize if people still get mad at my choices. Just try to remember that this is just my opinion, which can always change. No character is bad, by any...

Seriously? Ganon's not that bad. He's got great neutral options, thanks to the fall speed/jump speed changes, and his recovery's pretty decent. Amazing kill power, some decent combos... What makes him so horrible to you? The results argument isn't exactly valid, since there hasn't been a 4.0BC...

I put Ganon literally 6th from the bottom... How is that too high?? If anything, Ivysaur is the top of A tier, if she's not S. I have no reason to change my opinion on her. And I put Mewtwo where I did because it wouldbe unfair to just slap him in the high tiers less than a week after his...

No one really plays him(except maybe Thor), and his options are pretty meh. It's just my opinion, dude.