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Ok, so I finally played some Minus with some guys I know last night. I can confirm my original fears... the gravity change feels very poorly implemented and I think it should be reverted with potentially a few exceptions. Notable problems: - Pikachu cannot SH AC dair - Snake cannot FH nair and...

Yes you can... the Warlock Punch is a different story [although Roy and Ike can use counter as a dodge to avoid it], but I've definitely seen Falcon Punch set counter off (although Falcon was not hit). Bowser can also Royal Rampage through Falcon Punch and grab him mid-Falcon Punch [which looks...

Those are intended to show high KB, not death [although the biggest death GFX in PM is all-but-certain death (I've lived it once)]. I don't know how needed they are to be honest, and I'd frankly rather keep it out of Minus since it's occurring in PM and Smash 4.

It shouldn't lock, [as NEWB said], it should be able to be teched. If you are unfamiliar with the tech lock-out window then this should explain the problem [or SDI up and then tech, whatever]. Couldn't we shrink the tipper hitboxes, expand the flub hitboxes, and then flip the priority? I agree...

You can charge a c-sticked smash attack if you hold Z or A as you hit the c-stick [although this arguably defeats the point of c-sticking a smash attack]. Also chaingrabbing back = LOL. Sonic dair still a spike is saddening but whatever.

Those pink skins are particularly awesome.

Interesting. I thought PM added that, but instead they just tweaked it. Good to know.

No, jump-cancelled grabs do not exist in Brawl Minus. I am 100% positive of this [or else LB, BC, and others would hate my Falco a LOT more]. I asked about them earlier, and they aren't in because of JCable moves abusing it and the fact that you can crouch-cancel grab [duck during a running...

Not to be that guy, but unless you made this thing fly way more than you suggest, the cancel should probably come back... from how it sounds, a SH Warlock Punch offstage will still kill you now that there is no on-hit cancel, while a FH one is safe on hit or whiff, whereas prior a FH was safe on...

Sounds like thunderstorming got removed, among other things [SH AC Dair for those who aren't familiar with the term]. I'd be willing to bet Pikastorming was removed too, which would be quite a shame [same thing, except with Pikachu].

I have no idea. On that topic [not really, but sorta], is Melee Minus dead? The boards are awfully inactive...

Have you ever played against Captain Falcon??? Most of the cast has really early kill options or combos into insanely early kills... Falcon's forward air, Ganondorf's... everything?, Wolf uair chains to up+b, Ike fsmash [and stored eruption!], Wario's up+b, Luigi's green missile... the list...

BUT NOT FALCON'S KNEE Comboing into usmash actually wouldn't bother me... really strong? YES. Safe on shield? NOPE [or it shouldn't be]. The point is that counter spam is currently viewed as too safe, and if you made it only cancellable with a smash attack, it would do a wonderful job of...

ROB dair, Fox actually wavedashes, Wolf Flash cancel all act as wavedashes. There may be others beyond these [Peach bair may work depending on how its landing lag is].

Lucario not being floaty wouldn't be Lucario [see PM, also 3.Q Samus]. I don't think messing with his fall speed is ideal. Also, for counter, how about a smash attack cancel? Just throwing it out, it sounds like a grab cancel is too good [and jump cancel was too good because spamming it +...

Learn what directional influence is. There are no true chaingrabs in Minus, because you can hold away from Roy and he can't regrab you. Whatever "Chaingrab" Roy was doing to you was not a true combo unless you don't know how to DI or DI it badly. Also dev team needs to stop messing with GFX...

Have never seen any proof that Roy was broken ever. I'd love to see what made him so broken, but I personally never had any trouble with even some of the best Roys [at least not to an extent where I thought he was broken]. Yoshi... Yoshi was broken. Roy had some good stuff, but I found no...

I know that you could use the flinching while grounded for decent stuff, but it made the move not very effective when actually chasing someone [as you'd have a combo chance, do a fair, then you actually knock them out of histun faster (they flinch and are then able to act) and could be punished...

Unless this is badly worded or jargon I don't understand, there was never [ever] a problem with a sweetspot on Charizard's fair. The problem was with Charizard's fair sourspot [aka the extended range] being useless, and thus making the move's effective range quite short. If this is just your...

This makes me happy about the stages, but I worry for Charizard's fair [when we were told all hitboxes would have some sort of KB] and ROB's nair [when we were told he'd get the ability to control his nair's rotation speed back], among other things...