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Pin is probably listing player order, that is, P1-P2-P2-P1. While I had always seen 1-2-1 before 1-2-2-1, I don't know if there's actually a standard for how it should be expressed [besides just saying it in words, as Pin did].

I know we're not supposed to do anti-requests, but I *really* disagree that Falcon and Fox should be slowed down [it's called ducking mid-run and dash-dancing if it's "too committal", as well as walking]. Should that be put to a poll or something? [Note: If they were only slowed to Melee...

Regarding Falco stuff: If the point of lasers is to make lasers godlike, that's fine. It seemed many on the boards felt they were too strong [slow aerial lasers vs Ike are hilarious], hence my suggested nerf. I figured the point of an up+b nerf was to make it that *IF* you force him to up+b...

Downloaded 7zip and used it... as I said in the post?

IIRC reflection is hard if they don't already have a reflector. I liked Dark Wave, but energy ball is cool too. Giving Warlock Punch different aerial and grounded properties would be awesome... but I do understand if the dev team just leaves things as are [;-;]

- I want Norfair 3.3 stage back [it was basically Norfair from Brawl with the three lower platforms widen, the top two removed, and no hazard]. I don't care if it's retextured so it doesn't look like Norfair, I just really really like the layout. - I want Golden Captain Falcon [one was made to...

He's got slow up close options and kinda laggy aerials. Reminds me of Melee Link if Melee Link were in a game where everyone was on Melee Fox level. He's... okay... likely not top 10. I also don't know how bad his bad MUs actually are... I'd just have to guess. Gmae isn't well-optimized [not...

ROB dash was re-added??? Came to report the powershield thing but it seems to be addressed... from what I heard it's when you powershield one hit that you chain powershields [the way ESAM described Smash 4 autoshielding or whatever], and both Lucario and Mewtwo can set it off.

4 things I thought of while trying out 4.0BC [withholding criticism or big points or whatever, just thoughts]: 1) Alternate costumes were added for some but not others... could we *PLEASE* get golden Captain Falcon next release? Someone made it and it looked amazing and it might be the final...

Literally just posted this exact issue in the main thread lol. I'll try getting 7-zip or something I guess... EDIT: Eyyy it worked!

I meant like neutral-wise lol. I never tried that hard to push characters and break them, it was more something that was just for fun to be honest... like I know I landed stupid fair chains on people and managed to get that nerfed, and I'm sure there are other ways to use cancels and maybe even...

I always run default so I'm glad I won't need to modify stuff. Thanks.

Out of curiosity, do you have any idea of how mine stacks up, or is Wi-Fi different enough from Netplay to make a comparison pointless? EDIT: Dusk one other issue is that sure Falco's recovery is great, but he's so fragile he often just gets combo'd to a KO outright [due to somewhat high...

Both of the Wii downloads on the first page [Minus art and vBrawl art] are for Hackless builds, right? If not, since I only run Hackless, what do I need to do to get a Hackless version?

Okay... I'm sorry what? When did the dev team ever say that??? It's not an excuse... he's meant to be a multi-jump character and designed around that. And having jumps isn't an option, unless you mean a recovery option, which is hardly how that term is used [options would refer to Fox having...

Link was better than Ganondorf in my opinion in 4.0B, but IDK how much item throw strength nerfs him [I really doubt it does]. I play him mostly due to my PM/Melee Link, and his aerial landing lag feels a little high for me, but I think he'd fit well where Sheik is [not much higher], and I...

Lucas infinite being no more is good. Luigi side+b nerf is good, but I think up+B sweetspot could use a slight buff... IIRC it's still weaker than Brawl's, which is kinda silly [even if it's much easier to combo into]. I'm assuming MK dair issues were fixed via the global changes and not...

So it appears fallspeed increase was cut in half [I believe it was 1.0 originally], and jump/hop [I assume FH/SH] was adjusted as well? Hmm... wonder how it'll feel... YAY MEWTWO I have no idea why Fox jumpsquat was adjusted, but lol 20XX SFX. lol Ganon nerfs [I understand them because...

Nearly guaranteed death on a move this safe is better than guaranteed death [and it seems frankly out of line with other decisions even if it was only an angle-change and NOT made stronger]. IDK why I never responded to this lol.

WHO HAS THE BETTER FRIENDS TO FIGHT FOR!?