Mariosonicman1
Well-Known Member
now that that is cleared up. who thinks pichu is gonna become super powerful in the next release?
the changes sound a bit interesting
the changes sound a bit interesting
Announcing Brawl Minus 4.0!
- Thread starter Pin Clock
- Start date
Greatest_Aether
Forum Reg of sorts
This deals with Minus because...?
4.0 Pichu, in the right hands, is a devastating monster. He takes skill to use, but once he gets there he can get on you and refuse to leave until you are dead.
The Concept
Philosopher & Assassin
So...Pichu is a ReDead?
Mariosonicman1
Well-Known Member
you make it sound like pichu is gonna scream at you with its adorable cry and freeze you in place..... i like that idea alot XP
The Concept
Philosopher & Assassin
Just to reiterate.
Mariosonicman1
Well-Known Member
XD my goodness thats funny
Greatest_Aether
Forum Reg of sorts
inb4 ReDead for Minus
Mariosonicman1
Well-Known Member
what have we done? we are creating a monster XD
Lucis Perficio
Radiant Hero of Blue Flames
I wasn't disregarding his opinion. If you pay attention to my wording you'll see that I was merely seeking validation and despite his opinion, held my own.
Also, where have you heard that these will be the changes being made to Ike?
Thor
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Waaaaaaaaaaay back in this thread somewhere [it might be the first page, but I think it's one that's a ways in], Pin Clock [head of development] made an announcement where he gave us a partial changelist [with some stuff omitted and everything subject to change]. One of the changes to Ike was something along the lines of "NSM mode being revamped, Ike can once again store Eruption [independent of NSM]".
Lucis Perficio
Radiant Hero of Blue Flames
Yeah ik that much. What I want to know is how MegaSaturn knows that those changes include Ike being faster in NSM.
Lucis Perficio
Radiant Hero of Blue Flames
Awesome. Do you know anymore details?
Mariosonicman1
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when you mention redead, it kinda makes me wish there was a stage where some of the subspace enemies would appear on it as stage hazards.
Lucis Perficio
Radiant Hero of Blue Flames
I'm all for this.
Lucis Perficio
Radiant Hero of Blue Flames
By the way, will Pit and Olimar be receiving nerfs of some sort? They're two characters whose performance is almost independent of whom they play against, with few exceptions. Where many characters oftentimes have a mismatch, it doesn't seem as though it applies to these characters.
I mean, as Olimar a person can literally just evade while b an side-b spamming, since Pikmin launch now.
And Pit has just about so many incidental kill moves, that it puts characters to shame. He can literally hang from the ledge and only a ttack b jumping off and shooting arrows. If his opponent is holding on to the ledge, he can easily just up-b next to them to spike them, where as any other character would require more skill to do so. Add to this the fact that his side-b has a wind effect, and he seems incredibly difficult to counter. I had been able to play Bowser against my friend's Pit until he decided to stay two character spaces away from me at all times and attack while my back was turned during my super armor moves.
ik that Pit was actually MORE broken in the past, but it still seems as though he simply rules the air. I understand that he's an angel, but no other character has as much air game as he does. Are there any sure-fire counters with for him?
I mean, as Olimar a person can literally just evade while b an side-b spamming, since Pikmin launch now.
And Pit has just about so many incidental kill moves, that it puts characters to shame. He can literally hang from the ledge and only a ttack b jumping off and shooting arrows. If his opponent is holding on to the ledge, he can easily just up-b next to them to spike them, where as any other character would require more skill to do so. Add to this the fact that his side-b has a wind effect, and he seems incredibly difficult to counter. I had been able to play Bowser against my friend's Pit until he decided to stay two character spaces away from me at all times and attack while my back was turned during my super armor moves.
ik that Pit was actually MORE broken in the past, but it still seems as though he simply rules the air. I understand that he's an angel, but no other character has as much air game as he does. Are there any sure-fire counters with for him?
Thor
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Characters can actually deal with that effectively. Air camping has holes.
Olimar I'm not sure needs nerfs, given that he's a paperweight, but I'd be unsurprised to see further damage nerfs. He is obscenely good in certain MUs [like Falco, he hard counters Luigi, since Luigi is basically reduced to only approaching with down+b].
I think Pit is well-balanced, although the free grabs from side+B are a little silly.
Also that's just sort of how people with projectiles are supposed to fight Bowser. It's bad vs Pit but especially terrible vs Falco, Link, Toon Link, and Snake.
I'm unaware of how Pit's up+B is able to meteor smash someone.
As for countering him... I'm not sure I could just name an ez-mode strategy to beating him, but I'd guess he struggles with Pikachu. There are probably others, but Pit's recovery being pretty linear and not ridiculously fast makes me thing he'd be very unhappy to deal with Thunder walls.